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Title: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ryan37 on Thursday 31 May 18 11:24 BST (UK)
I have a cert I found online its the last document I have for an aunt of my grandmothers im so keen to find what ever came of her , I have tried before to find details on death or anything else that leads me ,

I do have this cert but im not sure if its best to post on the forum or post to someone on private mail as don't know rules etc

im keen to use any info found on the cert or understand what it all includes

can anyone help me out

ryan
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 31 May 18 11:51 BST (UK)
You can post the sections that you can't understand, but don't post the whole document.
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 31 May 18 13:38 BST (UK)
As you found the cert online that means other people can too.   Would you like to give us the aunt's name, what year is on the cert and where this took place?

Also indicate which bits you are uncertain about?
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ryan37 on Thursday 31 May 18 15:24 BST (UK)
yes certainly

helen Samuel age 31 married Robert McIntosh age 35 in Toronto York Ontario 19th November 1928

both Scottish

I found it on ancestry

and I would love to find a death cert or any info on this couple as nobody back in Scotland knows anything after this cert

thank you apologies for delay in reply

ryan
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 31 May 18 15:47 BST (UK)
What were you not sure about Ryan? 

To me it is a marriage certificate giving the names and details of the bride and groom in the middle section of the record.  On the left are details of the witnesses and bride and grooms parents.  The bride, groom and both sets of parents are stated to be born in Scotland.

Birth year of Robert is c1893 and Helen c1897.



Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 31 May 18 15:55 BST (UK)
Ryan needs some help with the groom's parents: James McIntosh and Margaret ?

Presumably married in Scotland but I can't see anything likely on Scotlands people

Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ryan37 on Thursday 31 May 18 16:01 BST (UK)
That is an error I have found that the names are James and Margaret Mcintosh in the cert it looks like
mclintosh, also Margaret’s maiden name
Is sharp
Rather than shalt

I want to trace the couple Helen Samuel and Robert Mcintosh and thought that witness or address would help or I wasn’t sure if any other clues could be found on the cert

This is a fresh go at finding the couple Helen and Robert

I would love to find Helen as she is the only Samuel member I have no death record or info on after the marriage cert

Ryan
Help
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 31 May 18 16:10 BST (UK)
The witnesses were Geo C Benjamin and Grace W Benjamin, 74 Stibbard Avenue, Toronto
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 31 May 18 16:28 BST (UK)
Well I don't know if this is any help, but I have found a Mr & Mrs Robert McIntosh living at 337 Melrose Street, in the York-Humber, Ontario district on the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 in 1965.

This would make the couple late sixties/early seventies.  Robert is a salesman.

Do you know if they had any children?
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ryan37 on Thursday 31 May 18 17:09 BST (UK)
Wow that is fantastic I don’t know about children , where did you find the record ? Can you send me a copy please ? Would this clue help us find them?

Ryan


Topic moved to Canada as requested.
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 31 May 18 17:15 BST (UK)
I've saved a copy of the record to my computer.  I will send you a pm with my email addy and you can then write and ask me to send to record to you.
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ryan37 on Friday 08 June 18 12:41 BST (UK)
found a couple in 1954, us city directories

helen m McIntosh and Robert b McIntosh

Charlestown west virginia, 210 tenn ave


is there anyway I could find more info than this, this is a guess but could it be the couple im looking for ?


ryan
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 08 June 18 13:26 BST (UK)
More than likely - Robert Burns McIntosh who married Helen Mae Jackson Postlethwaite in 1945 -    Kanawha West Virginia.

Helen Mae Jackson 1917–2004
born 29 September 1917 - Charleston, Kanawha, West Virginia.
passed away  4 April 2004 - Hurricane, Putnam, West Virginia,



Sandra
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ryan37 on Friday 08 June 18 13:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra , also found a nell Samuel in York Ontario , Bathurst York Ontario in 1954 this could be her, maybe she separated , from Robert , it’s exactly the same area they married and she  was known as nell Samuel

Ryan
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 08 June 18 13:35 BST (UK)
Think from my previous searches on the other threads I thought this was Nell Samuel -  JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry (JOWBR) -   burial 1 April 1970    Beth Tzedec Memorial Park 5822 Bathurst Street North York, Ontario. Burial Plot:   section10, plot79, lot3

Sandra
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 08 June 18 13:37 BST (UK)
Parents - Father - Hyman Kidansky Samuel 1861–1939
born 30 September 1861 - Augustow, Poland passed away 15 February 1939 - Scarborough, Ontario, Canada - mother Fannie Symans

Sandra
Title: Re: marriage cert i cant understand some detail
Post by: ryan37 on Friday 08 June 18 13:38 BST (UK)
This is a difficult person to find but I’m very keen to keep working on it

Thanks for that I wish I could find her