RootsChat.Com
Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Katesmallwood861 on Friday 01 June 18 08:31 BST (UK)
-
Hello
I am trying to trace my grandmothers ancestors however am really struggling finding any records which could trace her family.
I think I am struggling as I know little about her and have no living relatives to help as well as finding Irish records a little more difficult to find.
She was born Mary Margaret Markey 1895 Dublin Ireland.
She married Thomas Nicholson in 1920 Dublin however i I Niall this couldn’t find a marriage record but recently found One where she may be recorded as “Maud” on the record.
She came to England in either the 1940/1950 and died in Chester in 1966.
She was known as Margaret and some of her family emigrated to South Africa.
When researching I have looked for census records however there are some very similar names and dates and I am unsure if it is her. (Mary Margaret and margaret Mary).
I do have a marriage index entry And a possible birth index entry but I unsure of how I could trace her mother of father? I cannot find any parish records- she was catholic.
Any advice would be 👍 thanks Kate
-
Hello and welcome to Rootschat :)
This is a good site if you have not already found it https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
This looks like your grandmother’s birth registration
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02217/1836824.pdf
You will have to probably go through a couple of procedures to see it but it is free.
Regards
Heywood
-
Is this the marriage you found?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09270/5356094.pdf
The father is Thomas which would fit with the birth.
-
Thank you! I have used her headstone to find the birth year so fingers crossed the entry is her......I didn’t know about that website and will definitely have a look. Thanks
-
I have only ever found index entry which does not give much information so the ones you have sent links for look like they hold much more information......I didn’t know where to find them so that’s great I’m vrry excited to have a good peek and see if I can start piecing it together......
-
Thank you! I have used her headstone to find the birth year so fingers crossed the entry is her......I didn’t know about that website and will definitely have a look. Thanks
They are both in Summerhill at time of marriage but is she there on 1911 Census?
Her Father was an Engine Driver so moved around a lot!!! ;D ;D but maybe you can find his as an Engine Driver on Census?
-
I can’t find them in censuses yet :-\
Thomas Markey married Mary Ennis in 1894 - you can find his marriage. There is something written under his father’s name which I can’t quite make out.
-
I can’t find them in censuses yet :-\
Thomas Markey married Mary Ennis in 1894 - you can find his marriage. There is something written under his father’s name which I can’t quite make out.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10553/5844114.pdf
-
Mary Elizabeth born 1901
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01944/1751596.pdf
Still in Kilmainham
-
I can’t find them in censuses yet :-\
Thomas Markey married Mary Ennis in 1894 - you can find his marriage. There is something written under his father’s name which I can’t quite make out.
Me neither
.
.
-
I can’t find them in censuses yet :-\
Thomas Markey married Mary Ennis in 1894 - you can find his marriage. There is something written under his father’s name which I can’t quite make out.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10553/5844114.pdf
Alive
-
It looks like that bit with the other entries on page there is nothing under many, alive or dead
-
Do you think Patrick’s (Thomas’ father) occupation is Painter?
If so, this could be Thomas’ birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03348/2227622.pdf
-
Thomas’ mother and siblings maybe?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/New_Kilmainham/Albion_Terrace/1289569/
I haven’t found the boys births but here is Margaret in 1879 - parents Patrick Markey and Margaret Mitchell - address 11 Summers Cottages.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02932/2074420.pdf
-
I can’t find them in censuses yet :-\
Thomas Markey married Mary Ennis in 1894 - you can find his marriage. There is something written under his father’s name which I can’t quite make out.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10553/5844114.pdf
Alive
I thought it said ‘alien’ ::) (as in not Irish)
-
Do you think Patrick’s (Thomas’ father) occupation is Painter?
If so, this could be Thomas’ birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03348/2227622.pdf
Yes
-
Patrick Markey’s death - Thomas is the informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05806/4643273.pdf
-
An old Rootschat thread - census pages missing for Old Kilmainham in 1901
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=531780.0
-
I can’t find them in censuses yet :-\
Thomas Markey married Mary Ennis in 1894 - you can find his marriage. There is something written under his father’s name which I can’t quite make out.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10553/5844114.pdf
Alive
I thought it said ‘alien’ ::) (as in not Irish)
That crossed my mind as well, it's a bit odd if it is alive as the others on the page only record if dead. It would be worth looking if it is the same Registar on each entry on the page, and maybe earlier and later pages.
Or it could be the habit of different priests to note only the living or only the dead
-
Thanks everyone for your links and help, how amazing and kind everyone is! I can’t wait to get going later and see what I can find 😊
-
Patrick Nicholson married Lily Hoey in 1921 and had Margaret Markey as one of his witnesses
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09234/5341781.pdf
-
I can’t find them in censuses yet :-\
Thomas Markey married Mary Ennis in 1894 - you can find his marriage. There is something written under his father’s name which I can’t quite make out.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10553/5844114.pdf
Alive
I thought it said ‘alien’ ::) (as in not Irish)
...or maybe known as Alicia?? ;D ;D