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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Warwickshire => Topic started by: mrs bongo on Thursday 07 June 18 13:08 BST (UK)
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hi all
i hope you can help me looking for info regarding william liggins born 1903 birmingham died around 1931 he married in 1922 i think to a florence harris any info would be a bonus
kind regards
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Hi their is a birth March qtr 1904 Aston for a William Liggins Mothers maiden name Turner?
Keyboard86
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thank you
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Hi again, he seems to be in an Institution, possibly Industrial School at Fentham Road, Erdington in 1911?
Keyboard86
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thak you for that i never heard of that
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was william with his family on the census
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Their is also an Albert Liggins aged 3 and Lizzie aged 6 at same address, all are given place of birth Not Known.
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PS Albert Daniel and Lizzie/Elizabeth appear to have mmn Bennett?
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thank you
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Hi again, an awkward surname to trace, but a possible baptism for William Liggins is:-
Born 6th December 1903 Baptism 20th December 1903 St Clements, Nechells, Father William occ Labourer Mother Mary Ann address Church Road, Aston?
Keyboard86
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thank you for that you are it is hard im still trying to find out info on the harrris i was told one of my grand dads famiy went to america it very hard to find out
thank you again
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Hi again, was Florence a sibling of your Grandfather, if so who were the parents?
What happened to Florence Liggins nee Harris after the death of William in June qtr 1932 Birmingham N aged 28 if your information is correct?
Keyboard86
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my grand-dad was thomas frederick harris his parents were samuel harris and harriet clements florence was his sister . i not sure want happened to florence after her husband died . my grand-dad never spoke about his family i wish i knew its hard to do this year
thank you
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Hi again, if I have the correct family in 1911 Church Lane, Aston, Harriet 50 was a Widow, Florence 11 and Thomas 7
Florence Elizabeth Harris Sept qtr 1899 Aston mmn Clements
Thomas Frederick Harris June qtr 1903 Aston mmn Clements
Both Florence Elizabeth and Thomas Frederick were born 46, Woodcock Street, Florence born 5th August 1899 baptism 20th August 1899 St James the less, Ashted.
How do you know Florence Elizabeth married William Liggins?
Keyboard86
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thank you for your help
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thank you for your help
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Hi does your reply suggest Florence Elizabeth did not possibly marry William Liggins?
I am along with others, here to help?
Keyboard86
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its getting hard now to thre rest of the family
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Hi from the 1901 census, Leah Harris married a Robert Ketch 25th December 1905, he died in the War and she remarried I think a George Taylor Dec qtr 1926 Birmingham and died as Leah Taylor b abt 1883 Sept 1958 Birmingham?
The one at present I have searched for but eludes me is the Rose Harris b 5th February 1891 who possibly married an Arthur T Collier or Frederick E Moore in 1911?
Possibly Arthur T married the other Mary L?
Keyboard86
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i know that feeling that 2 people in this tree i find hard to trace one is rose and the other is james samuel harris . you feel like pulling your hair sometimes .
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Possibly of interest:
Births Mar 1924
Liggins William
mmn Harris
Birmingham 6d 571
Births Sep 1929
Liggins Dennis A
mmn Harris
Birmingham N. 6d 658
Bev
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thank you for your help kind regards
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Possibly of interest:
Births Mar 1924
Liggins William
mmn Harris
Birmingham 6d 571
Births Sep 1929
Liggins Dennis A
mmn Harris
Birmingham N. 6d 658
Bev
It's tracing those two that has caused me problems, and the potential Florence E Harris marriages?
Keyboard86
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very frustration when you cant find the info
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James Samuel Harris b Sept qtr 1881 was the only one born outside Birmingham, namely Whitechapel/Spitalfields, in 1891 as James S and 1901 as Samuel.
1891 RG12/2416/128/14
1901 RG13/2871/13/17
Keyboard86
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thank you for that info , that is only what i could only find out about him too.
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i think iv found this samuel harris married mary ann michells on the 16 th june 1918 on info it said father samuel harris desceased occ general dealer i hope this is the right one thank you
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Hi you had a much earlier thread on William J Downing in 2016?
Florence Elizabeth Downing born 5th August 1899 died Sept qtr 1981 Llanelly aged 82?
So how did a marriage to a William Liggins crop up?
Keyboard86
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well im not too sure now which is right on the liggins tree william liggins married florence e harris 1922 in birmingham
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well im not too sure now which is right on the liggins tree william liggins married florence e harris 1922 in birmingham
William Liggins married Florence Harris no mention of a middle initial?
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PS William J Downing aged 5 b Bradley, Staffordshire was in Aston with his parents in 1901 RG13/2865/129/17
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i know on some of the sites florence is with a e in middle put on some there no middle name
it so confusing
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:) Hi you were offered advice in 2016 and I will offer the same advice, you must purchase the marriage in my opinion of William (Joseph ) Downing to Florence Elizabeth Harris?
The fact that a Florence Elizabeth Downing died in Llanelly with the exact date of birth of Florence Elizabeth Harris seems one I would purchase?
Keyboard86
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thank you i will
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thank you i will
Please, only through www.gro.gov.uk you can order a PDF copy for £6:00
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EDIT William J Downing aged 5 was living in Green Lane in 1901 approx 2 miles from Florence E at Woodcock Street.
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[ i never knew that the only i know my grand dad son went to wales to visit a member of family whom no one knows has he has passed away now
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OK just to confirm some findings, who did your Grandfather Thomas Frederick Harris born 5th May 1903 marry, was it to a Flora Owen in Dudley 1925 who died 1945 Birmingham aged 41?
Keyboard86
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that is correct my grandad died in 1980 he was married to flora owen they married in Dudley in 1925
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OK so did not remarry after the death of Flora ie June 1950 Birmingham to an Eileen D.
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no he was on his own untill he died in 1980
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i think iv found this samuel harris married mary ann michells on the 16 th june 1918 on info it said father samuel harris desceased occ general dealer i hope this is the right one thank you
Hi again, their is another version of this marriage which suggests Mary Ann had surname NIcholls/Nichols, Samuel born 4th August 1881 and family are at 275, Pool Farm Road, Birmingham in 1939
Their is also a British Army Service record of a Samuel Harris b 1881 London with the Royal Warwickshire Regiment Service number 6482, mention of 46, Woodcock Street.
Keyboard86
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Hi again, both Samuel and Mary Ann were resident at Stanforth/Staniforth Street at marriage, in 1891 a Mary Ann Nicholls aged 3 is with a huge family headed by John 53 occ Gun Finisher and Anne 43
Census ref RG12/2393/74/3
Keyboard86
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thank you for that didnt know samuel was in a regiments where can you that info from
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His Record is on FindMyPast, Mary Ann Harris born 7th July 1888 died March qtr 1970 Birmingham aged 81
Keyboard86
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im not on that site thank you
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do you know when samuel died
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do you know when samuel died
Their are a couple in Birmingham b abt 1880/1882, the son of Samuel & Mary Ann, Samuel born 5th May 1921 died February 2004 Birmingham aged 82 he from Electoral Registers was living at the same address as 1939 Register
Keyboard86
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The 1939 is available on Ancestry the mother of Mary Ann , Ann Nichols still appears to be alive b 29th Sept 1850, but on original has "Holland name by repute"
Has that marriage certificate been ordered yet, if so please let us know outcome!?
Keyboard86
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i will kind regards