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CWGC wish to make contact with any family members of Sergeant Alfred Goble - Welsh Regiment - 16487
Alfred Goble, Sergeant-Instructor, 16487, Welsh Regiment. Alfred was born at Worthing, Sussex, the son of John and Mary Ann Goble. He was an experienced old soldier, and had taken part in the Retreat to Kandahar in 1880, under Lord Roberts. He married Susan Douglas in 1885, and moved to Carmarthen many years before the Great War, as instructor for the Royal Garrison Artillery. As soon as war broke out, Alfred was anxious to do his bit once again, and after a period at the Army Remount Depot at Carmarthen, he joined the 15th Battalion, Welsh Regiment, the Carmarthen Pals battalion, on 21 February 1915, which was then at Rhyl. Alfred didn’t go to France with the battalion, but remained at Kinmel Park as an Instructor with the 61st Training Battalion. His health deteriorated under the strains however, and he died in Hospital on Thursday 31 May 1917. His body was transported by rail to Carmarthen, where Alfred was buried at St. David’s Churchyard. He was 64 years old, and left a widow, four daughters, and four sons, two of whom were serving with the Army.
https://www.wwwmp.co.uk/carmarthenshire-memorials/carmarthen-ww1-memorial/
https://www.wwwmp.co.uk/local-military-units/15th-battalion-welsh-regiment/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m6c/
Sandra
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1901 Census St David Carmarthan
Alfred Goble 46 Susan Goble 39
Frederick W Goble 12 Charles L Goble 10
Lydia M Goble 8 Jane T Goble 3
Annie M Goble 1 Ellen C Goble 14 Niece
1911 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JM-LBM
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Son Frederick W Goble - born 1889 St Peters, Carmarthenshire, Wales - married 20 Sep 1914 - Newport - aged 18 years - spouse Alice Eline Arnold - Regimental Number 27048 - Royal Garrison Artillery - British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 show a son Newport Charles Goble. ???
Think this child was Frederick C Goble born 1915 passed away September 1934 Plymouth - 5b 337
Son Charles Lewis Goble (29 October 1890) married Kate Lewis (12 September 1894) - Carmarthan 1923 - 11a 2297 -
Charles passed away 15 February 1952 - probate 19 March 1952 - Carmarthen. Probate to Kate Lewis Goble and Peter Lewis Goble.
Kate Goble passed away December 1978 - Carmarthen - probate 11 December 1978 - Registry: Llandaff
Couple had a son Peter Lewis Goble 17 April 1924 - passed away February 1995 South Glamorgan - E18A 8901 E - aged 70 years.
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Son Albert George Goble born 27 September 1902 - there is a death for Albert G Goble 1903 - March 1940 - Cardigan Pembrokeshire. 11b 9 - which could be Albert - he was single in 1939 - resided 75 Lammas Street according to probate 23 April 1940 to James Arthur Goble (plummer)
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Son James Arthur Goble 15 September 1906 - passed away December 1957 - Carmarthen - 8a 273
James may also have remained unmarried.
Passed 5 December 1957 probate 23 December - to Annie Margaretta Goble - spinster.
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Sister Annie Margretta Goble 18 December 1900 passed away May 1972 - Carmarthen - 8a 1368
Looks like this sister was also unmarried.
Sandra
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Sister Jane Theresa Goble born 1897 passed away September 1949 Carmarthen - 8a 215 -
Jane appeared on the UK Nursing Register 16 July 1926 - at the 75 Lammas Street Carmarthen address - qualified at the Holborn and Finsbury Hospital London. 1923 - 1926
Looks like this sister may also have remained unmarried.
Probate Jane Theresa Goble - Jenny - 75 Lammas Street Carmarthen - passed 24 July 1979 probate 12 November to james Arthur and Annie Margretta.
Sandra
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Sister Lydia May Goble born 16 March 1893 - passed away 03/1982 Carmarthen Dyfed Wales - volume 24 page 1800 - probate 5 May 1982 Registry: Llandaff - address 75 Lammas Street Carfmarthen.
UK & Ireland, Nursing Registers, 1898-1968 - show Lydia May Goble - 1934 - 75 Lammas Street address - qualified Springfield Mental Hospital Tooting London. Registered 20 May 1925.
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wife Susan nee Douglas Goble 1863 - passed away 1938 - Carmarthen - 11a 974
Sandra
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At the risk of sounding pedantic, Alfred Goble's wife was a Susan Goble (dau. of a Charles and Susan). Whether a relative (cousin?) or coincidence I don't know. Their childrens births on GRO Index all listed as Goble, mmn Goble.
Alfred and Susan had a total of 9 children, 2 of whom died:
Alfred John born and died Mar.qtr. 1887 Rochford, Essex
Frederick W.born 1888 Carmarthen
Charles Lewis b.1890 ditto
Lydia May b.1893 ditto
Gwendoline Louisa b.1895, died 1899 Carmarthen
Jane Theresa b.1897 Carmarthen
Annie Margretta b.1900 ditto
Albert George b.1902 ditto
James Arthur b.1906 ditto
So at the time of his death in 1917 he had 3 daughters and 4 sons.
Any descendants will have to come from Frederick W. or Charles L. - as you've rightly shown the other children all appear to have died unmarried.
Annette
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Info from West Wales War Memorial Project - perhaps you would like to contact them with your findings. ;)
Suspected the researcher inadvertently included Ellen Goble (the niece) who showed in 1901 as one of the daughters
Ellen Goble also passed away at 75 Lammas Street Carmarthen 9 April 1975 - probate Llandaff 3 July 1975
https://www.wwwmp.co.uk/carmarthenshire-memorials/carmarthen-ww1-memorial/
Fredrick William Goble married Alice E Arnold - September 1914 - Isle Of Wight - 2b 1393
The couple probably had 2 daughters - Eileen N M Goble - December 1928 - Devonport - 5b410
Daughter - Eileen N M Goble - married Terence J Blee - Plymouth 1949 - 7a 13034a
Goble Gwynneth F Arnold I. Wight 2b 1251 - September 1920
MS Eileen Nancy May Blee- passed away 7 April 2009 - Wellingborough, Northamptonshire -
Eileen and Terence had 2 sons 1951 - 1953 both Plymouth - possibly a daughter in Neath 1961 ???
Sandra
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Daughter of Frederick and Alice Eliza Goble - Gwenneth F Goble born June 1920 married David O Catchpole - June 1944 - Devonport - 5b 599
Gwyneth Florence Catchpole - June 1920 - passed away May 1990 - Haverfordwest Dyfed
There were 2 male Catchpole births in 1944 and 1949 - Plymouth.
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Frederick W Goble - 1889 - passed away June 1952 - Plymouth Devon. 7a 621
Alice Eliza Goble - 25 february 1893 passed away June 1976 - Haverfordwest Dyfed. 24 - 1841
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