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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: LEMB on Friday 08 June 18 13:29 BST (UK)

Title: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: LEMB on Friday 08 June 18 13:29 BST (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to find information on the living family and I know I can't search for that on here so I wanted to search the ancestors.

Does anyone have any information on Christina Forrest 1881? I know she married a James Herd but I wanted to find out if they had children?

Christina did have a child that I know of, possibly unknown father. The child's name was Jean Forrest 1899 and she married Alexander Napier. I wanted to find out if they had any children aswell? I know of one of them but I'm not sure if she's passed away or not so I'll leave the name for now.

I'm desperate to find any information I can! I know they lived in Scotland, Glasgow I think? And fife? So I wasn't sure which topic to put this in!

Thank you :)
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 08 June 18 14:22 BST (UK)
Have you tried looking on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

There is a marriage for a Christina Forrest 1905 Fowlis Wester Perth to a James Herd
A death for a Christina Forrest other surname Herd also on S P 1954 Culross Fife aged 72 you can view these certificates for a small fee of £7.50 which will give you 30 credits ...The death might give you a family member who registered the death ..This Christina would have been born about 1882 so would not have had a child in 1889 being only 7 years of age

Rosie
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: ev on Friday 08 June 18 14:46 BST (UK)
Was the child Jeannie Weir Forrest born 1899 Fowlis Wester ?
Possible marriage to an Alexander Napier in 1925.


ev
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 08 June 18 14:48 BST (UK)
This could be a possible census record in 1901 in Fowlis Wester Perthshire ( Auchloy Farm )
Alexander Forrest age 60 born Wiston Lanarkshire farmer
Agnes Forrest age 56 born Cornwarth Lanarkshire
Christina Forrest age 19 born Cornwarth Lanarkshire daughter
Alexander Forrest age 17 born Walston Lanarkshire son
George Forrest age 12 born Douglas Lanarkshire son
Alexander Forrest age 14 born Douglas Lanarkshire ( grandson )
Jeannie Forrest age 1 born Fowlis Wester ( granddaughter probably the daughter of Christina )
David Nicol age 5 born Crief Perthshire (grandson )
Jeannie Mighton ( probably transcribed wrong ) servant dairymaid
William Nicol age 40 servant cattleman
William Kiddy age 19 ploughman

Getting a copy of the marriage will confirm parents names

Rosie
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 08 June 18 14:54 BST (UK)
Birth for a Christina Forrest 13 July 1881 Carnwarth Lanark
Father Alexander Forrest
Mother Agnes Watson

Rosie
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: ev on Friday 08 June 18 15:05 BST (UK)
1911 Census index
Fowlis Wester , Perth 357/ 1/ 1
James Herd 28
Christina Herd 29
Peter Herd 5
Agnes Herd 4
Barbara Herd 3
Alexander Herd 1


ev
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 08 June 18 15:13 BST (UK)
Same family on the 1891 census addressDebog Douglas Lanarkshire
Alexander Forrest age 49 dairyman
Agnes W Forrest 46
Jean Forrest age 15 born Coulter Lanarkshire
Grace Forrest age 11 born Biggar Lanarkshire
Christina Forrest age 9
Alexander Forrest age 8
Alexander Forrest age 4 grandson
George Forrest age 2
Elizabeth Greenshields  age 16 born Douglas Lanarkshire domestic servant

Marriage 30 June 1871 Carnworth Lanarkshire
Alexander Forrest
Agnes Watson

Rosie

Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: isobelw on Friday 08 June 18 15:19 BST (UK)
Death in 1997 in Falkirk of a William Napier age 71 mmn Forrest. Possible matching birth in 1925 in Culross, Fife.
Isobel
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: LEMB on Friday 08 June 18 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi! Yes I have tried that website and in some ways it's a life saver and then sometimes it doesn't give me much information at all lol! I can't believe you found the death certificate!?! Thank you so much! Also, my mistake there, Jean was born in 1899!! Not 1889.. oops!
I hope that makes it more straight forward now. Thank you.

 
Have you tried looking on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

There is a marriage for a Christina Forrest 1905 Fowlis Wester Perth to a James Herd
A death for a Christina Forrest other surname Herd also on S P 1954 Culross Fife aged 72 you can view these certificates for a small fee of £7.50 which will give you 30 credits ...The death might give you a family member who registered the death ..This Christina would have been born about 1882 so would not have had a child in 1889 being only 7 years of age

Rosie
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: LEMB on Friday 08 June 18 15:49 BST (UK)
Hi!

Yes it was, I've just realised I put her birth year wrong so I've changed it to 1899 now. She had a child that I'm trying to find more information on but I don't know whether they are alive or not  so rather than leave myself at a dead end, do you know if Christina had anymore children other than Jean?
Or if Jean had any children? Thank you very much.

 
Was the child Jeannie Weir Forrest born 1899 Fowlis Wester ?
Possible marriage to an Alexander Napier in 1925.


ev
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: LEMB on Friday 08 June 18 15:51 BST (UK)
Oh my god! Where did you find this?
So it's true that Christina did have more children once she married James. I know she had Jean in 1899 but wondered if there was anymore. Can you tell me where you got this information? Thank you so much.

 
1911 Census index
Fowlis Wester , Perth 357/ 1/ 1
James Herd 28
Christina Herd 29
Peter Herd 5
Agnes Herd 4
Barbara Herd 3
Alexander Herd 1


ev
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: LEMB on Friday 08 June 18 15:52 BST (UK)
I swear I've seen a William Napier somewhere in the family tree! Do you know who the mother or father is?
I'll have to have a look later when I'm out of work. Thank you very much.

 
Death in 1997 in Falkirk of a William Napier age 71 mmn Forrest. Possible matching birth in 1925 in Culross, Fife.
Isobel
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: isobelw on Friday 08 June 18 16:17 BST (UK)
Ref children on 1911 census-
Possible death of Peter Herd in Killin in 1975 age 70 mmn Forrest
Agnes Watson Herd birn 1906 Fowlis Wester died 1982 Auchtermuchty, mmn Forrest. Married to George Lawson in Culross in 1929.
Alexander Forrest Herd born 1909 Fowlis Wester died 1984 age 74 Canongate Edinburgh, mmn Forrest. Married Sarah Crawford Stein in 1930 in Culross. Two possible children who are deceased - James Herd died 1975 Edinburgh age 45 mmn Stein and William Stein Herd died 1990 Canongate age 53 mmn Stein
Barbara Roberts Herd born 1907 Fowlis Wester possibly married William Stewart Campbell in 1930 in Culross and died in Monifieth in 1936 age 28 ( death entry says Hird but marriage says Herd)
Isobel
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: LEMB on Friday 08 June 18 16:48 BST (UK)
Interesting! Thank you for that. Christina had Jean Weir Forrest before marrying James then I'm presuming?
Do you have any idea how id find her death date? Thank you for the information on the other children.

 
Ref children on 1911 census-
Possible death of Peter Herd in Killin in 1975 age 70 mmn Forrest
Agnes Watson Herd birn 1906 Fowlis Wester died 1982 Auchtermuchty, mmn Forrest. Married to George Lawson in Culross in 1929.
Alexander Forrest Herd born 1909 Fowlis Wester died 1984 age 74 Canongate Edinburgh, mmn Forrest. Married Sarah Crawford Stein in 1930 in Culross. Two possible children who are deceased - James Herd died 1975 Edinburgh age 45 mmn Stein and William Stein Herd died 1990 Canongate age 53 mmn Stein
Barbara Roberts Herd born 1907 Fowlis Wester possibly married William Stewart Campbell in 1930 in Culross and died in Monifieth in 1936 age 28 ( death entry says Hird but marriage says Herd)
Isobel
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 08 June 18 17:07 BST (UK)
Death for Jeannie Weir Forrest 1980 age 81 years Stirling also recorded as Jeannie Weir Herd
You would need to order the death certificate ..Or view it at one of the history centres in Scotland

Rosie
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: LEMB on Friday 08 June 18 17:33 BST (UK)
Oh wow! I can't believe you've found that. I'll definitely order the certificate,
Where do I get it from? I thought she'd of been under Napier as she married Alexander Napier in approx 1925! Do you know how I can also find there children? Or child if they only had 1? Thank you soooo much.

 
Death for Jeannie Weir Forrest 1980 age 81 years Stirling also recorded as Jeannie Weir Herd
You would need to order the death certificate ..Or view it at one of the history centres in Scotland

Rosie
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: isobelw on Friday 08 June 18 18:17 BST (UK)
Oh wow! I can't believe you've found that. I'll definitely order the certificate,
Where do I get it from? I thought she'd of been under Napier as she married Alexander Napier in approx 1925! Do you know how I can also find there children? Or child if they only had 1? Thank you soooo much.

 
Death for Jeannie Weir Forrest 1980 age 81 years Stirling also recorded as Jeannie Weir Herd
You would need to order the death certificate ..Or view it at one of the history centres in Scotland

Rosie
The death is recorded under three different surnames - Herd, Forrest and Napier ( all with the same reference number)  I suspect it will say that she is the wife/widow of Alexander Napier and the daughter of Christina Forrest now Herd . you can order it through the Scotlandspeople website.
Isobel

Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: isobelw on Friday 08 June 18 18:21 BST (UK)
I swear I've seen a William Napier somewhere in the family tree! Do you know who the mother or father is?
I'll have to have a look later when I'm out of work. Thank you very much.

 
Death in 1997 in Falkirk of a William Napier age 71 mmn Forrest. Possible matching birth in 1925 in Culross, Fife.
Isobel

I suspect he is the son of Alexander Napier and Jeannie Weir Forrest but you will need to order his death certificate from Scotlandspeople to be sure.
Title: Re: FORREST / NAPIER FAMILY
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 08 June 18 21:41 BST (UK)
Oh wow! I can't believe you've found that. I'll definitely order the certificate,
Where do I get it from? I thought she'd of been under Napier as she married Alexander Napier in approx 1925! Do you know how I can also find there children? Or child if they only had 1? Thank you soooo much.

 
Death for Jeannie Weir Forrest 1980 age 81 years Stirling also recorded as Jeannie Weir Herd
You would need to order the death certificate ..Or view it at one of the history centres in Scotland

Rosie
The death is recorded under three different surnames - Herd, Forrest and Napier ( all with the same reference number)  I suspect it will say that she is the wife/widow of Alexander Napier and the daughter of Christina Forrest now Herd . you can order it through the Scotlandspeople website.
Isobel

Yes should have added Napier  ;)