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Hugh Ward born in County Monaghan c1852 died 24/1/1902 in Clarksburg Massachusetts. Need help to find when he emigrated. Any help would be appreciated as I have no idea where to start. THanks >:(
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There this guy - the actual manifest says he is a labourer. Travelled in steerage.
Hugh Ward
Arrival date: 28 Oct 1879
Birth Date: abt 1853
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: England
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That sounds right. His sisters came out to Australia in 1866. Now I can look for his marriage. I found his death in US and that gave me their parents which was great. I am thankful that one of his sisters in a death notice actually put the full date of his death 24/1/1902. Many thanks
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This might be him and his family in 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6767-BTP?cc=1325221
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Cancel that, that family is there in 1910,including Hugh
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I suspect that a son Thomas dies a few months after Hugh
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-67H7-47K?i=61&cc=1463156
With this a 1901 birth for a Thomas Hugh Ward can be found ... parents Hugh Ward and Mary Gruman (or Groman for daughter Harriet in 1897)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FX4P-R5H
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FXXF-FKR
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Possible marriage for Hugh Ward 18 February 1891 Hoosick Falls New York USA Mary Grunau
Death for a son John Ward 29 January 1908 age 14 (acute lobar pneumonia ) address 332 Main Street North Adams Massachusetts
Place of birth Hoosick Falls New York
Father Hugh birth place Ireland
Mother Mary Tillman ? birth place Ireland
www.findagrave.com
Has photo of grave stone burial place Saint Josephs Cemetry North Adams Berkshire County Massachusetts
Hugh 1902
John 1908
Thomas 1902
Rosie
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That is interesting. He was having children at a late age. I will try and find the marriage. Thanks
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So you think he married twice. John was his father's name. He had a sister called Rose. Did Rosie die?
Lots of questions and hard to find the answers after all these years. Thanks I certainly have a lot of research to do.
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I would not think he married twice maybe a middle name for his wife or other surname ??? would need to check ..Where was his sister Rose was she in Australia ?
Rosie
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Not finding much out on Mary Grunau/Gruman/Groman
This could be a possible record of immigration departure Liverpool arrival date 7/6/1865 New York
Vessel Webster
James Grunau 32 labourer
Anne Grunau 28
Mary 9,Nathaniel 7,Anne 5,Hugh 2 Infant Bridget also a Hugh Grunau age 25
Possible record for Hugh Ward age 30 occupation labourer born Ireland a boarder with a Michael and Mary King both born Ireland 1880 census Hoosick Falls Rensselaer
Rosie
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Thanks Rosie
In answer to your question about Rose his sister I have no Idea where she was. The death notice of Hugh in the South Australia Paper read loving brother of Rose, Bessie and the late Mrs Burden who was Bridget. I guessed that perhaps Rose was still alive in 1902. Bessie (Elizabeth) died in 1902 also.
Also find it hard with the birth years. One says he was 26 years in 1879 and yet the census in 1880 has him as 30. I only wish that they had put the County where he was from somewhere. That would be more helpful that just Ireland.
I do know they came from County Monaghan. Possibly the Shirley estates.
The only positive thing at the moment is his death date which Bessie had put in the paper. 24/1/1902. And the deaths of his children. Many thanks for that.
Pat
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Strange we can't find the family on the 1900 census tried all different variations of the name
Do you have a birth year for his sister Rose ?
Rosie
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No I do not have anything on Rose. I have been looking thru Irish records but they are not too good and are hard to read. I will start again looking at them from 1840 to 1855. I have a feeling that she may be the eldest. Do not know why.
Pat
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But Rose was in Australia, yes?, so no help having her age for 1900 US census which I assume is what Rosie was thinking.
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No Rose is not in Australia
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so your reply #2 refers to?
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But Rose was in Australia, yes?, so no help having her age for 1900 US census which I assume is what Rosie was thinking.
No the question I asked was where was Rose ? And not finding the family in 1900
Residence year 1897 North Adams Massachusetts
Hugh Ward wks mill this occupation mentioned in one of the childrens certificates
There is a marriage 10 July 1905 North Adams Massachusetts
Mary ( Greening ) Ward this Mary was a widow and her second marriage her father is Thomas Greenan mother Mary Maguire ..She married a Leo F Harcourt but on1910 census records she is recorded as having no children ..1920 census there is a Mary E Ward birth year 1898 Massachusetts with the family recorded as sister in law age 22 occupation nurse
Might be a possibility
Rosie
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I am getting a little muddle up. As far as I know Rose has never been out to Australia. Do not know if she emigrated anywhere.
Pat
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You might be better to list the information you have on the family in Ireland and what immigration records you have already ..You said there was sisters went to Australia so I am assuming you have records of their immigration ..apart from Rose who you are not sure about have you checked if she married in Ireland ?..
Rosie
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Right. I am looking at records from Ireland. Have all the records of the two sisters here. Elizabeth and Bridget who came out in 1866 to South Australia. Elizabeth did not marry. The main thing to find out was who their parents were and now that we have found Hugh's death that has been answered.
Thanks for all the help. Much appreciated.
Pat