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Hi
Bit of a long shot
But trying to find a marriage in USA of
A edward Francis ahearne
To
A June Delaney
They had a daughter dale
Regards Phil
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There's an obituary in the the Berkshire Eagle [Pittsfield, Massachusetts] which might give a marriage date.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKRJ-3BLF
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Greetings,
I'm new to this forum and to posting info here so I don't want to get in trouble with copyright issues right off the bat. I read through the info regarding copyright infringement on this site, but I'm still a bit unclear. I'm in the US and I believe articles published before 1923 (so 1922 and earlier) are in the public domain. From 1923 to before 1978, those articles are copyrighted for 95 years from date of publication.
My question is, I found a marriage announcement for a June Marie Delaney and Edward Francis Ahern in the 3 Apr 1948 edition of The Berkshire Eagle, in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.
I know I can't post the article, and it's on a pay site so a link to the article isn't an option. My question is, can I post details from that article for the OP (not a verbatim copy of the article), or is that out of bounds as well?
Any help or corrections to anything I've written above are welcomed.
Thanks!
Laurel
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Obituary here:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/berkshire/obituary.aspx?n=june-hoerle&pid=144195077
Marriage announcement here (if you click on 'Show Page 16 article text (OCR)', you will see a snippet of what is written):
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/30736675/
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I know I can't post the article, and it's on a pay site so a link to the article isn't an option. My question is, can I post details from that article for the OP (not a verbatim copy of the article), or is that out of bounds as well?
It's OK to post details from an article in your own words. Many of them are available in more than one place (whether two places online or online + in a library), so we don't know where you got it from.
As far as items that are in the public domain, whether or not you can post the image here depends on the terms and conditions of the site that you're getting it from. Some do not allow their images to be shared elsewhere, so we don't want to encourage people to violate those rules. What you do off of this board, such as via e-mail, is your business.
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Hi
Bit of a long shot
But trying to find a marriage in USA of
A edward Francis ahearne
To
A June Delaney
They had a daughter dale
Regards Phil
The marriage announcement is quite lenghty and detailed aobout them.
The Berkshire Eagle
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Saturday, April 03, 1948 - Page 16
Just close the clipped article that someone else has saved and then you can pan over to the article titled:
June Delaney
Bride Today
Local Nurse Weds
Edward Ahearn,
Greenfield Man
3rd column from right, 2nd item from top
Link:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m6j/
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he Berkshire Eagle
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Monday, November 29, 1965 - Page 16
Edward F. Ahean
Edward F. Ahearn, 44, of 163 St. James Blvd., Springfield, died Saturday in Springfield Hospital. He was the husband of the former June M. Delaney, who lived in Pittsfield at one time. Besides his wife, he leaves three daughters and two brothers. Friends may call at the Sampson Funeral Home, on Liberty Street, Springfield, today from 2 to 4 and 7 to 10. The funeral will be tomorrow morning at 9 from the funeral home, followed by a Solemn High Mass of Requiem at 10 at Our Lady of Hope Church, Springfield. Burial will be in St. Michael's Cemetery there.
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I know I can't post the article, and it's on a pay site so a link to the article isn't an option. My question is, can I post details from that article for the OP (not a verbatim copy of the article), or is that out of bounds as well?
It's OK to post details from an article in your own words. Many of them are available in more than one place (whether two places online or online + in a library), so we don't know where you got it from.
As far as items that are in the public domain, whether or not you can post the image here depends on the terms and conditions of the site that you're getting it from. Some do not allow their images to be shared elsewhere, so we don't want to encourage people to violate those rules. What you do off of this board, such as via e-mail, is your business.
Thank you!
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I didn't find a marriage cert online, but I found separate references for both of them in The Index to Marriages in Massachusetts, 1946-1950. The data in both listings matches, and besides having one listing for June and one for Edward, there is a listing for Pittsfield and one for Greenfield as follows:
Delaney, June Marie
Greenfield, 1948, Volume 56, Page 498
Pittsfield, 1948, Volume 93, Page 341
Ahearn, Edward Francis
Greenfield, 1948, Volume 56, Page 498
Pittsfield, 1948, Volume 93, Page 341
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Hi thanks for all the great information
Can anyone find the parents of Edward ( Francis ) shear
B about 1921 ( Greenfield) Massachusetts and died 1965
Regards Phil
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Sorry that last request
Edward Francis ahearn
Not the name that was in my message
But onto (*)
May have come from
Pittsfield, or Berkshire in Massachusetts
Born about 1950
Possibly grandparents were Wilfred Francis gelinas b 1896
Regards Phil
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Hi Wilfred Francis
Lived in Pittsfield Massachusetts
So someone in that family possibly related to (*)
Regards Phil
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Hi
Who did Wilfred Francis 1896 marry
In Massachusetts
Possibly Pittsfield or Berkshire
This post is possibly ok
Regards Phil
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Hi
Mark gelinas died 1993
And
Wilfred Francis gelinas b1896
Would have passed away also
Regards Phil
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Wilfred's wife was Irene M. Burya, born about 1901 in Vermont, father Arthur J. Burya
But ...... I can't find any record of her beyond the 1930 census. I'll keep looking.
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Birth of Wilfred, 29 October 1895:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D513-2K1?i=81&cc=1536925
Wilfred, 1910 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRNP-9NZ?i=18&cc=1727033
Wilfred, 1920 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRNX-9W32?i=5&cc=1488411
Wilfred, 1930 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RHW-6TF?i=11&cc=1810731
Wilfred, 1940 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89M1-3K2R?i=19&cc=2000219
Wilfred, WWI draft registration:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-8B5R-QWV?i=3621&cc=1968530
Wilfred, 1942 WWII draft registration:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DC57-F5M?i=3275&cc=1861144
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I think this is the WWI draft registration of Irene's father, Arthur Joseph Borngea but the spelling of the surname is anybody's guess.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-L1V3-LRQ?i=555&cc=1968530
EDIT - NO. WRONG PERSON. IGNORE THIS.
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The Massachusetts vital records after 1920 are not online, but you can request them from the town or the state. It's been a while since I did so, but the town was usually cheaper than the state. Edward Ahearn's marriage record in either Pittsfield or Greenfield should give you his parents' names.
I've seen marriage records recorded in both the towns where the parties resided, which is why this one is recorded twice.
I'm still working on this, to see if we can figure out his parents from just what is online.
Edward and June had their wedding reception at the White Horse Inn, Greenfield. I think I was there once with my wife, passing through on vacation one year. :)
And - there's a good chance this family is on rootsweb, ancestry, myHeritage, or the like, somewhere. Have you looked? If you find something, let us know, to save us the time of looking.
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Okay - skip that draft registration; it's the wrong person. Here is Irene in the 1920 census. Irene Bruya.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RXL-CTT?i=25&cc=1488411
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1910 census, Irene Bruya:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YB9-JWB?i=32&cc=1727033
Grave, Arthur and Mary Bruya
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/110081239/mary-e.-bruya
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OK, here's a good guess. But you should still take a look at Edward's marriage record to be sure. There may have been two similar families in the area or I might have missed something important. And there are a few weak links in the following.
My guess is Edward Francis Ahearn, b 1921, Deerfield, is the son of Francis E and Marian (Delpha) Ahearn.
Edward's marriage announcement said he was the nephew of Mr and Mrs Patrick J Hogan of Greenfield. According to two obituaries for Patrick Hogan's daughters, his wife was Margaret Ahearn.
obit for daughter Mary: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKP7-FLQF
I didn't find Patrick Hogan and Margaret Ahearn's marriage record, although it should be there. their 1930 census said they were married about 1919.
Hogan's 1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQGQ-2BV
In 1930, Margaret (Ahearn) Hogan was 34, so she was born about 1896.
Her birth was 23 Jan 1896, in Deerfield, Ma, daughter of James A'Hearn and Annie Shaw.
her birth: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FXXZ-VF5
Searching for other Ahearn births in that area and time period, turned up 5 others, including a Francis E Ahearn, born 9 Dec 1897, in Deerfield
his birth: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FXXN-MHQ
He married Marian Delpha, 16 November 1920, Greenfield.
the marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLGR-LPDS
Their 1930 household includes a son Edward E, age 9
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQGQ-3WX
Marian died in 14 Oct 1933, Sunderland, MA, according to findagrave.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/95325365/marion-liddy-ahearn
Francis died 4 May 1973
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/95528752/francis-e.-ahearn
So Edward was known in 1948 as the nephew of Patrick and Margaret because his mother died when he was 12 and he was raised by his father's sister. I don't know where his father Francis went after his wife died.
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Birth of Irene Bruya:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DZC7-VBL?i=4011&cc=1784223
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If this is your family, here is another generation - Annie Shaw's parents, on the same tombstone as her and her husband.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/95528521/annie-ahearn
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Wilfred Francis Gelinas married Irene Mary Bruya in 1926.
Irene's birth: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFSR-WQ8
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Irene died 15 March 1936.
The Burlington Free Press
Burlington, Vermont
Tuesday, March 17, 1936 - Page 8
Mrs. Gelinas Dies
Edward H. Bruya of South street of this village received word Monday morning from Pittsfield, Mass., telling him of the sudden death Sunday of his niece, Irene (Bruya), wife of W. F. Gelimes, the daughter of his brother, Arthur Bruya, a former resident of this village. The message stated that if weather permitted the remains would be brought Tuesday to Vergennes, her former home, where the interment would be made. She is survived by a husband and four small children and her father.
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The Burlington Free Press
Burlington, Vermont
Tuesday, March 24, 1936 - Page 17
...News was received here last week , of the sudden death in Pittsfield, j Mass.. of Mrs. Irene (Bruya) Gelinas, wife of Wilford F, Gelinas, aged 35, a former resident of Vergennes. Besides her husband she is survived by four chilaren, Mxxx(daughter), age 9; Rxxx (son), age 4; Lxxx(daughter), age 14 months: and Ixxx Mxxx 9Daughter), born Sunday morning. March 15, and by her father, Arthur A. Bruya of Boston, Mass. She was born in Vergennes, April 18, 1900, ihe daughter of Arthur A. Bruya and the late Mary (Dubuc) Bruya.........
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Wilfred Francis Gelinas gets remarried in 1952.
The Berkshire Eagle
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Wednesday, July 30, 1952 - Page 12
Mary S. Mooney, W. F. Gelinas Married Today
Mrs. Mary Elizabeth Slattery Mooney of 20 Reuter Avenue and Wilfred Francis Gelinas of 360 Elm Street were married this morning at 7 in Sacred Heart Church. Rev. John P. Donahue performed, the ceremony. The bride wore a navy sheer dress, blue hat with veil and an orchid corsage. Miss Mxxx Cxxx Gelinas, daughter of the bridegroom, was maid of honor. She wore an aqua sheer dress, and carried a bouquet of roses. Best man was George S. Slattery, brother of the bride, Mrs. Gelinas wore a beige suit. After a two-week trip to Canada, Mr. and Mrs. Gelinas will be at home at 39 Ontario Street. Mrs. Gelinas is employed at the Columbus Avenue plant of GE. Mr. Gelinas is an electrical engineer in the GE industrial heating plant.
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Wilfred Francis Gelinas dies in Florida in 1965.
FLDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VV3V-G7M
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Are you sure Mark Gelinas died in 1993? There is a man by that name in the Social Security Death Index who died April 24, 1993, whose last residence was Boston, but he was born December 14 1956.
I have some information about another Mark Gelinas who might be the one you are looking for but I will hold onto it until I hear back from you.
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A rootsweb tree says Irene Bruya and Wilfred Gelinas were married: 26 Aug 1925 in Lanesborough, Massachusetts, United States
https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=andreb&id=I183
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Hi
Mark gelinas who death 1993 may be the wrong person
Jumping the gun !!!
So what mark do you have please
Regards Phil
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Hi
Mark gelinas who death 1993 may be the wrong person
Jumping the gun !!!
So what mark do you have please
Regards Phil
I sent it to you as a PM just in case. There was a birth date, a re-entry of the US age 2 with his mother, an address in Springfield ( which made me think it might be the one you are looking for), and siblings' names.
Edit to add: Wilfred Gelinas only had 1 son according to the obituary that has been posted. So the Mark you are looking for would have to be his descendant. You will need to match up the mother's name on the passenger manifest to Wilfred's son, to tie things together, if Wilfred is really his grandfather. I think there were a couple Gelinas families in the area. I found two Mark G's in western Mass, and maybe a third, who died in Boston, unless he was from Western Mass. originally.
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Hi
We'll marks parents were
Lionel gelinas and Eileen ??? ( she may be of English parents
But lionel's parents
Alfred n gelinas and Annie ??
Alfred 1879 massachusetts
parents from canada
Regards Phil