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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Roscommon => Topic started by: rowsie on Sunday 10 June 18 10:44 BST (UK)
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Hi
I have been trying to find Roger for years. He appears in London on the 1851 census with his wife Mary and children John, Maria and James. (And John his brother). It states he was born 1818 Ireland. We believe he was born in Roscommon but I can't find any birth or marriage records for him. When I try to get back any further it's just a huge brick wall. I can find a later Roger through dog licenses, but I’m not sure if that’s him.
Mum and I have DNA tested but that’s not helped. Is anyone researching the Padains at all? Any help would be gratefully received
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Not too many..... easier if you just do a Search than me posting links to them...
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Welcome to RootsChat
Do you know what religion Roger and family were?
Not may records survive in Ireland from that period but there was Padain and variations in Roscommon at the time.
The Tithe Applotment books show some heads of household but by no means all.
Put Pad*n into the search and choose Roscommon and you can at least see the areas the name occurs.
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/index.jsp
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is this the family?
but wife's name Catherine not Mary???
1851
10 Kings head Court Middlesex
Roger Padian Head M 33 Ireland
Catherine wife 35 Ireland
John son 8 Ireland
Maria daughter 6 Ireland
James 2 1/2 son St Lukes Mx
John brother M 50 labourer Ireland
HO107 1563 538 38
1871Shoreditch
Roger Padin Head M 55 Ireland
Catherine wife 55 Ireland
John son 28
James son 23
Michael Padin son 18
Kate Padin 4 Granddaughter
RG10 440 4836
Suz
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Sorry senior moment, yes his wife was Catherine also from Ireland.
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I don't think the dog licences were his but those of another Roger -as the Roger you are researching was in London at the time they were issued
there is a tree on line -don't know how well sources it is
Roger Padian1818 Ireland died 1882 Lambeth Surrey
his brother John born 1799 parish Bersil Roscommon (his wife is named as Rebecca)
their father Matthew b 1779
Roger married Catherine 16 Jan 1834 Strokestown Roscommon Ireland
Catherine b 1816 d 1880
no surname given for her
the birth cert of son James b St Lukes Mx should give Catherine's maiden name
Suz
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Roger married Catherine 16 Jan 1834 Strokestown Roscommon Ireland
Suz
Left page, the bottom one.... https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633932#page/44/mode/1up
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WOW! Thank you so much, you guys are amazing. Currently squinting trying to read Catherine’s maiden name. Can’t stress how awesome you all are x
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Is Jacobum Roger??
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Catherine Murray Murry..... maybe
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WOW! Thank you so much, you guys are amazing. Currently squinting trying to read Catherine’s maiden name. Can’t stress how awesome you all are x
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I don't think the dog licences were his but those of another Roger -as the Roger you are researching was in London at the time they were issued
there is a tree on line -don't know how well sources it is
Roger Padian1818 Ireland died 1882 Lambeth Surrey
his brother John born 1799 parish Bersil Roscommon (his wife is named as Rebecca)
their father Matthew b 1779
Roger married Catherine 16 Jan 1834 Strokestown Roscommon Ireland
Catherine b 1816 d 1880
no surname given for her
the birth cert of son James b St Lukes Mx should give Catherine's maiden name
Suz
Looks (to me!) like someone is using a paper bag to carry water!!!
Roger Padian1818 Ireland
Roger married Catherine 16 Jan 1834 Aged 16??????????????
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Roger married Catherine 16 Jan 1834 Strokestown Roscommon Ireland
Suz
I do not think that Jacobum is Roger!!
Look at top entry!!
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Left page, the bottom one.... https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633932#page/44/mode/1up
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I don’t think Jacobum is Roger unfortunately as I think he dies the following year.
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I don’t think Jacobum is Roger unfortunately as I think he dies the following year.
So the online "tree" is an Ash tree with Dutch Elm disease..... ;D
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I don’t think Jacobum is Roger unfortunately as I think he dies the following year.
It;s not..... see the 2 entries I marked!
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Brother John (from 1851 census) gives Roscommon ‘Bersel’ in
1871 /442/84/18
John Padian 73 yrs
Sarah Carr 30 yrs
Rebecca Carr 4yrs
Looking at it it looks like ‘Baselk’ or similar.
There is Baslick in Roscommon :-\
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Not sure if you have them in 1861 - sadly no place of birth other than Ireland and transcribed on one site as ‘Pevadan’
1861 230/115/31