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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: Gadget on Monday 11 June 18 10:03 BST (UK)
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I'm researching an 11x great grandfather, Lewis Taylor, who died in Moreton Corbet in 1623. He was rector of that parish until just before his death.
Luckily, the CofE Clergy database ( http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/index.jsp ) has him listed: Person Id - 29753. The information given for him records that he was ordained on 20 Sept 1572 at Le Wyneard by the Bishop of Gloucester, Richard Cheyney. He moved on to become curate and then rector of Frodesley and rector of Moreton Corbet.
I know where Frodesley and Moreton Corbet are but, although I've googled various spellings, I can't locate Wyneard in Gloucestershire or Shropshire. The only one that comes up so far is in Co. Durham, which is certainly not the correct place.
Does anyone know of this place, please.
Thanks
Gadget
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I can't even find his record under gloucester.
http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/index.jsp
http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/DisplayCcePerson.jsp?PersonID=29753
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Ok, so looking at the ordination record, the bishop was Coventry, ordaining bishop Gloucester.
Is "Le Wynard" in the midlands?
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Ok, so looking at the ordination record, the bishop was Coventry, ordaining bishop Gloucester.
Is "Le Wynard" in the midlands?
I assume so. I've checked Lichfield/Coventry/Gloucester/Hereford
I have given details of the ordination record in my first post.
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I'm slowly going around the various possible counties, looking at parish names. I've found a possible in Herefordshire - Weonards or St Weonards.
WEONARD'S (ST.), a parish in the lower division of the hundred of WORMELOW, county of HEREFORD, 7¼ miles (W. by N.) from Ross, containing 642 inhabitants. The living is a perpetual curacy, annexed to the vicarage of Lugwardine, in the archdeaconry and diocese of Hereford. There is a place of worship for Wesleyan Methodists." [From Samuel Lewis A Topographical Dictionary of England (1831) ©Mel Lockie]
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/StWeonards
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http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Lugwardine
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In 1577 the appointment of Phillips ketheroe as curate, it is spelt wenarde, so obviously the spelling was variable.
I have looked at the living of lugwardine and its chapels before, and it was used to provide an income for various cathedral officials, I doubt any of them went there, I would think it a possible place for an ordination of someone intended to become rector, especially if the post was in the gift of a relative.
Mike
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Thanks, Mike, for further info.
I've now to find who the relative was as he took over the living of Frodesley the year after his ordination. The Moreton Corbet living was obviously the Corbets but that came later. I have a book about the landed families of Shropshire tucked away somewhere. I shall have to dig it out.
His will seems overly religious and only has about 5 lines of bequests!
Gadget
Add - seems the Scrivens were landowners around Frodesley. Reading through the bits and pieces on the Scrivens, there is also a link to Shrawardine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrawardine ) . This could also be considered as a mistranscription or place or ordination.
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A scrivener is the patron of the living at a slightly later date, followed by a Cholmondley Edwards, but in 1577 landowners and the Clergy had only recently recovered their leasurly lifestyle after the turbulence of Bloody Mary
Mike
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Just put some more info on my last post.
A very interesting time to be a clergyman - from 1572 to 1623 :-X
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http://search.shropshirehistory.org.uk/collections/getrecord/CCA_X6000_10_4_15385/
Copy of the Will of Lewes Taylor
Identity
Document Reference: 6000/15385
System Reference: X6000/10/4/15385
Details
Level: Item
Date: 1623
Description: Copy of the Will of Lewes Taylor, of Moreton Corbet, Clerke. To be buried in the Church of Moreton Corbet.
To his eldest son, Edmund Taylor, a piece of gold
To his second son, Richard Taylor, a piece of golde and all his divinity books.
To Grandchildren, Thomas & Mary Hodges, 5;
To his daughter, Sara, 10
The rest of his goods, chattels etc to his son, William Taylor, whom he appoints sole executor. Dated 13 March, 21 James 1 (1623). Inventory dated 26 May ,1623. Of the 39 items only seven have been copied
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/MoretonCorbet.html Taylor 69 matches
1635, May 14. Captain Edmund Taylor, of Wigmore, & Mrs. Frances Corbet, d. of Sr And. Corbet & Lady Eliz. his wife ... mar.
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Thanks, I have a copy of the will (see thread on handwriting board) and other details :)
I just wanted to know where Le Wyneard is as it was given in his C of E record as the place he was ordained by Bishop of Gloucester.
Gadget
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Lewis Taylor, rector at Moreton Corbet from 1582-1623, is also my 11x great grandfather! I am very excited to have come across your message and would appreciate any information you may have on either Lewis or the rest of his family. His daughter Margaret Taylor (c1590-1659) and her husband Richard Cureton (c1580-1628) are my 10x great grandparents. I know very little about Lewis or his wife Margery (nee Downes).
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Hi
I could let you have a copy of his will, if you don't have it.
You'll need to send me a Personal Message with your e-mail (not on here). Make 23 more posts - just post something on here twice - anything will do. You can then click on the green scroll icon under my avatar and send me a personal message.
I'll see what else I have. I'm descended from their daughter Margaret.
Gadget
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I've only got a few bits on this machine. I have Margery Downes as daughter of a Richard Downes.
Margaret Cureton married a John Sandland.
Have you done a DNA test?
Gadget
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Thanks for your speedy reply. Lewis' daughter Margaret is also your descendent? I have her marry Richard Cureton on 16 Jan 1608 in Moreton Corbet. Their daughter Margaret Cureton married John Sandland on 29 Jun 1627 and she is my 9x great grandmother.
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Which of their children are you descended from - I have William, b. 1634, Wem .
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William Sandland (b 1634) is my 8x great grandfather. He married Frances Deveris on 29 Sep 1663 in Wem.
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Have you heard of Orseddwen?
It's right on the Welsh/England border. My Sandlands ended up there and married into the Jones family of Tyn y drain.
Gadget