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Title: Grandmother
Post by: Pat Carter on Monday 11 June 18 18:41 BST (UK)
Looking to find out when my grandmother immagrated to Canada. Her name was Josephine Helen Showell Clarke. What year and on what ship. Thanks
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: Pennines on Monday 11 June 18 19:23 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat.

Do you know your grandmother's approximate birth year please. Also was she Irish or English etc?
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: JJen on Monday 11 June 18 19:37 BST (UK)
Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Just to help others - it would appear that according to her marriage cert Josephine was born c.1893. There are trees that have her birthplace as Scotland, parents William and Helen Clarke. Her marriage took place in 1915, Canada. So that at least gives a time frame to work with.

JJ
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: Pennines on Monday 11 June 18 20:09 BST (UK)
Thank you JJen for the helpful information.

I have just looked at the 1911 Scottish census -- not conclusive, but there is a Josephine Clarke on that census with a mother Helen. Josephine is a Dairymaid -- if this is her, it cuts the timeframe down further. She was born Lanark -- living in the St Rollox area of Glasgow.

This may be a complete red herring of course as it may not be her!

However I think the year of immigration is shown on Canadian census records -- so the year should be shown on the 1921 census if you have access to Ancestry, Pat.
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 11 June 18 20:24 BST (UK)
From the free index -

1911 Census , St Rollox , Lanark , 644/8 26/ 10
Helen Clarke 34
Josephine Clarke 17
Caroline Clarke 15
Helen Clarke 9

Background on previous thread...........


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=780560.0


Sandra
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: Pennines on Monday 11 June 18 20:35 BST (UK)
Thank you for the link to the previous thread Sandra -- great background information on that. Josephine's sister Caroline is mentioned.

Still haven't found Josephine's emigration though -- may need to go to Specsavers.
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: isobelw on Monday 11 June 18 21:36 BST (UK)
Ancestry have a Miss Clark born 1893 travelling out to St Johnís New Brunswick on the the Empress of Britain on 7th March 1913 ( Ancestry have this wrongly recorded as the Empire of Britain). Strangely if you check the shipís arrival information in Canada on 16/3/1913 there is no sign of a matching passenger. I checked another passenger E A Nightingale age 21, a Baker and he appears on both lists so it is definitely the same sailing.
Isobel
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: isobelw on Monday 11 June 18 22:04 BST (UK)
Sorry - not her. I used the passenger number from the outgoing list and it matches up with a Mary Clark age 22 on list at Canadian side ( different age causing confusion) She was with a Harry Clark age 48 ( given as A Clark age 30 at the uk end).
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: Pat Carter on Monday 11 June 18 23:56 BST (UK)
I just can't find how she got here. Her sister 18 yr old Caroline came in 1913 aboard the Cassandra .
Title: Re: Grandmother
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 12 June 18 12:26 BST (UK)
Pat -- have you looked at the link provided by Sandra in her reply above. If you click on that link it takes you to a previous thread about this family. (Sorry if you know this).

If you reply to the latest post on that thread, the person who started it will receive notification of your reply. She may have discovered more information about the family since that correspondence. She was researching the same family.