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Title: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Monday 11 June 18 21:11 BST (UK)
I ask for some assistance in my search.
I am looking for info on Grandmother***Catherine Gaw circa 1860 County Tyrone Northern Ireland.

1911  Irish Census, Catherine(Kate) lists birthplace as Co Tyrone.  I believe  that i will not find info on her birth as it was before registration.  How do i find info on her family? I  have  parents listed as Adam Gaw and Eliza Reid.  Adam's death circa 1894 Belfast N.I.. i have some info on Catherine's brother and 2 sisters.  Adam's father listed as John Gaw on marriage index.

I would like  to isolate John Gaw and his line.

any insight or direction would be appreciated
Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 11 June 18 21:55 BST (UK)
Religion?
Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Monday 11 June 18 22:00 BST (UK)
my apology-Church of Ireland listed on T Skinner and K. Gaw marriage
Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 11 June 18 22:08 BST (UK)
my apology-Church of Ireland listed on T Skinner and K. Gaw marriage

Which presumably means married in Church of Ireland?

Is this your Catherine? if so, husband was likely Presbyterian-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Hillview_Street/145641

1901 census gives her as born Belfast-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Linwood_Street/962099
Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Monday 11 June 18 22:20 BST (UK)
Aghadowey,

I have overlooked that info on the 1901 Census.
I shall begin from that point in my search for the Gaws.

Do you have a comment why the info is different on those census?

Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 12 June 18 02:14 BST (UK)
Catherine probably wasn't sure where she was born if they moved around a lot.  Her parents married in Lisburn in 1852 and the civil births from 1864:

1864  Emily - Dungannon, Tyrone  (registered by grandmother Eliza REID)
1866 Grace - Belfast, Antrim (registered by Margaret MULHOLLAND who gives mother's maiden surname as FLETCHER)
1868  Mary - Lurgan, Armagh and Down  (registered by Anna Maria GAW)
1870  Joseph - Lurgan, Armagh and Down (registered by mother)
1872  Sarah Jane (GOUGH) died 1873 - Belfast, Antrim
1873  Sarah Jane - Belfast, Antrim (registered 1874 by father)
1876  James - Belfast, Antrim  (registered by Annie GAW)

Adam's age at 57 in 1894 is probably not correct and he was more likely older than that.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05952/4691523.pdf

Eliza was said to be 74 in 1911.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05406/4510287.pdf

Debra  :)

Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 12 June 18 02:37 BST (UK)
There is a list here of Church of Ireland registers including those known to have been lost in 1922.

https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf

Perhaps you can research Adam's employment further to see if anything survives.

http://www.irrs.ie/

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 12 June 18 02:46 BST (UK)
It is easy to spot the marriages of Catherine's older siblings if you search from about 1868 onwards.  You can then try to find them in 1901 to see where they say they were born.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Tuesday 12 June 18 14:41 BST (UK)
wow
thanks to all for the leads
much appreciated
Title: Re: Gaws of Co Tyrone
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 14 June 18 03:06 BST (UK)
Just throwing out some more leads to follow / eliminate as appropriate.  When Adam Gaw married Eliza Reid in Lisburn 1st Presbyterian Church on 10 October 1852, he was recorded as residing in Lisburn, the 25 year old son of John Gaw, a 'pensioner' (usually implies ex- police/military).

A couple of years earlier on 29 May 1850, a 21 year old William Gaw of Longstone Street, Lisburn, married Ann Mahin/Mahier, William was described as an engine driver, the son of John Gaw, pensioner. Fast forward several decades and a widower William Gaw married a Susan Watson in St. Stephens CoI Belfast on 20 March 1882, William was described as an engine driver, the son of John Gaw a soldier:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10954/8003902.pdf

I suspect the William who married in 1882 may have been much older than Susan and was the following one who died in 1894:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05969/4696839.pdf

This looks like his widow Susan in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Ashley_Place/978130/

So William Gaw born c. 1830, living in Lisburn, the son of John Gaw pensioner ex-soldier - maybe a sibling of Adam?

Also, on 26 December Day 1868 in Lisburn (CoI) Cathedral, an Ann Gaw with an address of Lisburn married Robert McDonald, Ann was described as the 34 year old daughter of John Gaw, a pensioner. So again, just maybe a sibling of Adam?

Also to note the following, a John Gaw enlisted to become a gunner in the 7th Batt. Royal Artillery aged 17 on 26 December 1804 and was discharged on 9 August 1814 aged 26 1/2 (with a pension payable from 10 August 1814) as a consequence of injury to his right leg at (presumably the battle of) Talavera, his birthplace was recorded as Drumbo County Down (about 3 miles east of Lisburn).  The regimental register of pensioners for the 7th Batt. Royal Artillery commencing 1845 has an entry for a Gaw, his forename is missing as that part of the page is torn, however his date of admission as a pensioner (10-8-1814) matches the pension payment commencement for John - anyhow, his residence was recorded in this register as 'Belfast' and there is a note against the register entry to say that he died on what looks like 20 or 30 March 1855.  Just a possibility.

Also, an Adam Gaw was baptised in St. Anne's CoI Belfast on 7 May 1820, parents given as John Gaw and Margaret Anderson, but no other information to indicate if this was the Adam who married Eliza Reid in 1852.

Edited to add: There would appear to be a read-across to the following topic, in particular note the reference to the  'Battle of Talavera' at reply #11:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=514888.0