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Title: What is the Military Branch
Post by: shirleyarule1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 17:26 BST (UK)
Can anyone tell me what military branch this person is with?
I have looked through many of the uniforms but have seen none
like this one yet.
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 17:28 BST (UK)
He's Canadian. The bandolier indicates a mounted outfit but not possible to say which.
Was he born 1895 & had mother Martha ?
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 12 June 18 17:52 BST (UK)
There are Canadian records for two Herbert John Scotts, may be one of them.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/list.aspx?SurnameSearch=scott&GivenNameSearch=herbert+john&

MaxD
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: barryd on Tuesday 12 June 18 17:57 BST (UK)
Is the bandoleer his or a photographer's prop?
If the leather bandoleer belongs to the soldier then the photograph probably was taken early or pre-WW1. A prop anytime. 

Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: shirleyarule1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 18:01 BST (UK)
Not sure if a prop in the photo and also not sure if it is Herbert John Scott, was a name put on the photo.  Attached is also a photo.  I believe they are 2 different men
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: shirleyarule1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 18:02 BST (UK)
Was said to be the same person.  To me, they do not look alike.
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 18:03 BST (UK)
The Herbert John Scott Pte. (the other being a Capt.) so not him attested into the 156th. Batt. A photo of them shows them wearing bandoliers albeit not the same as this. They are also wearing riding breeches so did have mounted Coys.
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 18:05 BST (UK)
Best not to jump from one man to the other as it gets confusing. Who was Herbert John Scotts mother please?
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: shirleyarule1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 18:09 BST (UK)
Elizabeth (Murphy) Scott and father was Arthur Scott.  Herbert John Scott was born April 13, 1891, in Nottingham
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: barryd on Tuesday 12 June 18 18:12 BST (UK)
Am I seeing Corporal's stripes on the standing soldier? I am not sure.
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: shirleyarule1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 18:23 BST (UK)
I see them too.  I believe this to be the Herbert John Scott and not the other photo.  Herbert also received some medals.  I now know that they cannot be the same person since the uniforms are of two different countries.  I want to thank everyone who has helped me with this.  Now to figure out who the younger man is.
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: shirleyarule1 on Tuesday 12 June 18 18:26 BST (UK)
I did find the following ( a brother to Herbert John Scott)

SCOTT - Pte. Arthur Alfred, 4945. 1st/7th Bn. Sherwood Foresters.  Died of wounds 8th July,
1916.  Age 19.  Son of Arthur and Elizabeth Scott, of 79 Seymour St., Carlton Road, Nottingham.
I.H.13.

Could he have worn a uniform like the man in the first photo?
Title: Re: What is the Military Branch
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 12 June 18 19:28 BST (UK)
The standing man is a (british) artilleryman.  He is wearing one rank stripe, at that time the badge of a bombardier, one below a corporal.  There is a medal card for a Herbert J Scott, ending the war as an acting Corporal Royal Field Artillery, no service record unfortunately, two medals only..  There is also a Herbert John Scott who served first in the RFA and then the Labour Corps, he had the full set of three medals and a Silver War Badge, discharged wounded in 1918, probably not him, he was a Gunner when in the RFA (below bombardier).

The first man is quite definitely, as jim1 said, in the Canadian army.  Arthur Alfred would have worn a uniform similar to that of the standing man albeit with a different cap badge and probably puttees (the leg "bandages") rather than riding boots and spurs.

MaxD