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Title: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 13 June 18 18:08 BST (UK)
Hello,

Can anyone tell me at what churches the following events happened at and any additional indexed information e.g. parishes of couple etc:

Marriage of Alexander McGregor and Eliza Streater, 1847, Contin
Christening of Alexander MacGregor, 1815, Dingwall
Marriage of Simon McGrigor and Margaret MacKenzie, 1811, Fodderty
Christening of Margaret MacKenzie, 1796, Dingwall
Marriage of John MacKenzie and Christy MacDonald, 1792, Dingwall

Thanks!

Adam
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 13 June 18 22:25 BST (UK)
The marriages might not have taken place in a church at all, C of S weddings generally took place at the manse or a family home.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 13 June 18 22:29 BST (UK)
Really? That is interesting.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 13 June 18 22:29 BST (UK)
ScotlandsPeople gives the area but not where the ceremony took place sadly.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 13 June 18 23:26 BST (UK)
Only two sacraments in the C of S, baptism & communion. Anent marriage, the banns were called in the parish kirk/kirks & cautioner's put up a few bob which was forfeit if the intended nuptials proved frivolous or dodgy!
 The OPR's are often incomplete, Urray is not so good as I recall, Dingwall might be better. Scotlandspeople would be the place.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Wednesday 13 June 18 23:33 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 14 June 18 07:34 BST (UK)
ScotlandsPeople gives the area but not where the ceremony took place sadly.

Have you viewed the images or are you just talking about the index  :-\
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 09:08 BST (UK)
I haven't viewed them - I just have the dates and places. I just didn't know if the places corresponded with particular churches e.g. on FamilySearch records in Shalford, Essex are taken from St. Andrew's Church. I wasn't aware of the Church of Scotland rituals of ceremonies not always taking place in a church.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 14 June 18 11:20 BST (UK)
You really need to see the images on Scotlands people in case there is extra information. I think the index only shows a registration district
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 15:50 BST (UK)
My birthday's coming up in a few days so I intend to buy some credits. Thanks.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 14 June 18 16:49 BST (UK)
Which family history site subscription did you decide to put on your 'birthday present' list  :-\
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 16:58 BST (UK)
I chose FindMyPast as that apparently has a lot of information.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: JenB on Thursday 14 June 18 17:01 BST (UK)
If you want Scottish records you will still have to buy credits for Scotland's People.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 14 June 18 17:02 BST (UK)
They are both good, it depends really where your research is.  Hope that you get your wish. ;D
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 19:14 BST (UK)
Thanks. I see that ScotlandsPeople credits aren't exorbitant so I will try and buy some of those.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 17 June 18 09:03 BST (UK)
I chose FindMyPast as that apparently has a lot of information.
Yes, it does, but it only has indexes and transcriptions for Scotland.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Sunday 17 June 18 09:14 BST (UK)
Yes, that's why I'm purchasing ScotlandsPeople credits too.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 17 June 18 09:25 BST (UK)
Can anyone tell me at what churches the following events happened at and any additional indexed information e.g. parishes of couple etc:
Marriage of Alexander McGregor and Eliza Streater, 1847, Contin
Christening of Alexander MacGregor, 1815, Dingwall
Marriage of Simon McGrigor and Margaret MacKenzie, 1811, Fodderty
Christening of Margaret MacKenzie, 1796, Dingwall
Marriage of John MacKenzie and Christy MacDonald, 1792, Dingwall
The only way you will get any additional information is by viewing the original images on Scotland's People, as you already know.

The originals will not tell you the names of the parents of the couples, as information about fathers is only very rarely included in pre-1855 marriage records, and mothers almost never. They will tell you the names of the couple. They will normally tell you if either of the parties lived in a parish other than the one where the marriage was recorded. They may or may not tell you the date of the actual wedding, where the couple resided and/or their occupations, and who performed the wedding ceremony. They are very unlikely to tell you exactly where the wedding ceremony took place.

Until the beginning of the 20th century, it was very unusual for a wedding ceremony to take place in the kirk building. The traditional place was in the bride's home or, if her parents were dead or she married a long way from home, in the manse or in her employer's house.

In most rural parishes there was only one kirk and one minister, though some parishes had a few people who belonged to a minor or dissenting sect or denomination. The Statistical Accounts of each parish usually mention the existence of any such - see http://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/home

The parish registers that make up the Scotland's People main database are the registers of the Church of Scotland. The C of S was supposed to keep a record of all baptisms performed in the parish, and all banns called there, but didn't always do so, especially in the Highlands where parishes were very large with scattered populations, sometimes living many miles from the kirk by difficult tracks and paths.

So the overwhelming likelihood is that all those couples were married by the C of S minister of the parish where the marriage was recorded, but not in the actual kirk building itself.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Sunday 17 June 18 09:37 BST (UK)
That's very helpful. Thank you.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 06 July 18 18:11 BST (UK)
I chose FindMyPast as that apparently has a lot of information.

Did you get the subscription you wanted  :-\
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 06 July 18 18:22 BST (UK)
Sadly no, but I did get a good amount of money which I put towards purchasing numerous certificates.
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 06 July 18 18:24 BST (UK)
That is a shame.  It is so much better to be able to look things up yourself rather than having to keep asking for look ups.  Still no doubt you will be able to visit the library now you have broken up.  ;D
Title: Re: Church lookups
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 06 July 18 18:32 BST (UK)
Yes, I've also made a couple of enquiries to churches as well, and many of them have been helpful.