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Title: Amelia disappears.
Post by: Heatha on Wednesday 13 June 18 18:52 BST (UK)
My great, great grandmother had a sister, Amelia Hatley. She appears in the 1861 census living in South Stoneham (the very first family in district 4c). The family members are her father, Lewis Hatley, mother Sarah Hatley, sister Mary Ann Hatley and Amelia, aged 38. Amelia was christened at South Stoneham on 20th July 1823. In 1862 her mother died (buried at West End on 20th April) and in 1864 her father died on 10th October and was buried on 16th October, also at West End. Both daughters were alive then according to the probate record. Mary Ann is running the Post Office at West End in 1871. Her married sister, Sophia Dunford, is with her. Mary Ann died on 24th December 1878 and was buried at West End on 31st December. In the record she is said to be "of the Rectory Freemantle in the Parish of Milbrook in the said County Spinster the Sister one of the Executors".

I cannot find her in 1881. I cannot find a marriage or a death.

Can anyone shed any light on my latest brick wall ?
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 13 June 18 19:08 BST (UK)
Hi,

There is a newspaper article in Southern Echo 25 March 1893 recording a death of an Amelia Hatley 12 Mar 1893 at Felixstowe, Suffolk age 60. Late of West End, near Southampton.

The age is out by 10 years  ??? However it could be a mistake. The location of West End, Southampton ties in.

Also recorded in Hampshire Advertiser 25 March 1893.

Worth looking at?

JJ
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: Heatha on Wednesday 13 June 18 19:18 BST (UK)
Thank you very much. I have BNA subscription so I will get straight onto that. I always forget at least one possible source of information.  ::)
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 13 June 18 19:31 BST (UK)
1871 Census reference RG10  Piece 1192  Folio 130  Page6

Amelia Hattey, place of birth Westend
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 13 June 18 19:38 BST (UK)
Have a look at Amelia Harley (as transcribed FindMyPast)  - census ref RG11 Piece 1077  Folio 18  Page 29
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 13 June 18 19:41 BST (UK)
1891 she's a cook aged 58 in Cadogan Place, Chelsea RG12/62 folio 28 pg 9
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 13 June 18 19:46 BST (UK)
1871 Census reference RG10  Piece 1192  Folio 130  Page6

Amelia Hattey, place of birth Westend

Amelia Halley on Anc***ry  ??? Correct age  :)

JJ
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 13 June 18 19:53 BST (UK)
Have a look at Amelia Harley (as transcribed FindMyPast)  - census ref RG11 Piece 1077  Folio 18  Page 29

Image looks more like Hatley than Harley.

JJ
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 13 June 18 20:18 BST (UK)
After checking the 1891 Census I was intrigued who Amelia's employer might be. The census was taken on 5 April.

Morning Post, 28 April, 1891
"Lady Hart and Miss Hart have returned to 38 Cadogan Place, from the Continent
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: Heatha on Wednesday 13 June 18 20:27 BST (UK)
Thank you for all your help. I am still struggling with 1881 from your references with my family history search engine. I feel frustrated as I have entered details which should have brought Amelia up but they haven't. Can anyone tell me the registration district and sub-registration district in 1881 please?

The information about Lady Hart and Miss Hart is very interesting.
Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 13 June 18 20:40 BST (UK)
hanes teulu, thanks for that. I'd been trying to find mention of them around 1891 as I'd found Lady Hester Jane Hart on the electoral role at 38 Cadogan Place from 1897. She was the wife of Sir Robert Hart of the Chinese Customs Service

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Robert_Hart,_1st_Baronet

Title: Re: Amelia disappears.
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 14 June 18 05:45 BST (UK)
I'd picked up Robert Hart from an item in the Illustrated London News, 6 Dec 1890 where Lady Hart was presented with a silver dish as part Sir Robert's testimonial.

I imagined Amelia (or "Mrs Bridges" as I'd come to think of her!!) perhaps doing justice to the item with some culinary masterpiece (or was it only "for show"?)