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Title: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: capslock on Thursday 14 June 18 15:50 BST (UK)
Please if anyone can help me trying to find the family of William Bestford estimated birth year 1855-1859 Fourstones Copen  Northumberland married to Julia Boddy but cannot find any record of this. I think that I have gone down the wrong path with parents George Bestford (Besford) born 1825 and Jane Wilkinson born 1827 both in Birtly. If anyone can help or guide me I would be grateful
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 14 June 18 16:18 BST (UK)
so: 1901 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS96-SG2  (implying a marriage late 1880's)

& 1891 (implying a similar scenario) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:H3V7-R6Z

BESFORD, JULIA       THORNTON   1889  J Quarter in MORPETH  Volume 10B  Page 363
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 14 June 18 16:32 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

In 1881 Julia was in Bedlington, a widow with children William, John & Akice
RG11 / 5117 f85 p43
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-C82T
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 14 June 18 16:42 BST (UK)
Possibly William Bestford in 1881
RG11 / 5117 f77 p27

William Bestford   - Lodger -Single   age   29   bn   Blyth, Northumberland

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-C8J5


Deleted as JenB's post that follows makes more sense   ;D
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: JenB on Thursday 14 June 18 16:44 BST (UK)
Alternatively......

His birthplace in 1901 and 1891 is Cowpen, which was in the Township of Horton so I think this is a possible family in 1881  :-\

RG 11 / 5116 / 7 / 5

Sleekburn, Bedlington

Robert Bestford, head, m, 49, coal miner, Northumberland Birtley
Dorothy Bestford, wife, m, 47, do Spittle
William Bestford, unm, 24, coal miner, do Horton

+ younger siblings

1855-1859 Fourstones Copen  Northumberland

Where does Fourstones come into it? It's near Hexham - quite some distance from Cowpen  :-\ 
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: JenB on Thursday 14 June 18 16:53 BST (UK)
Alternatively......

His birthplace in 1901 and 1891 is Cowpen, which was in the Township of Horton so I think this is a possible family in 1881  :-\

RG 11 / 5116 / 7 / 5

Sleekburn, Bedlington

Robert Bestford, head, m, 49, coal miner, Northumberland Birtley
Dorothy Bestford, wife, m, 47, do Spittle
William Bestford, unm, 24, coal miner, do Horton

+ younger siblings

Just adding the same family in 1861, living at Bebside, Cowpen  :-\

RG 9 / 3850 / 89/ 54

Robert Bestford, head, mar, 29, coal miner, Northumberland Birtley
Dorothy do, wife, 27, do Tweedmouth
WIlliam do, son, 4, scholar, do Morton (probably actually Murton)
Dorothy do, daur, 1, do Horton
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: JenB on Thursday 14 June 18 18:14 BST (UK)

1855-1859 Fourstones Copen  Northumberland

Where does Fourstones come into it? It's near Hexham - quite some distance from Cowpen  :-\

Answering my own question  ::) I think you have found a William Bestford aged 54 born in Fourstones living in Bellingham Workhouse in 1911, and assumed that this is 'your' William.

I don't think it is  ;D Apart from anything else, as I said before, Fourstones is a fair distance inland from Cowpen.

This is surely your William Bes(t)ford, birthplace Cowpen, still in Cowpen in 1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWM2-8TQ
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: capslock on Thursday 14 June 18 18:43 BST (UK)
Thank you for your replies but unfortunately I cannot find any information on the marriage of Julia Body to William and that the family of Robert Bestford  William is still at home in 1891 age 34 and also with Julia Body and family under the name of Bessford age 40. I am struggling finding out who his parents are.
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: capslock on Tuesday 10 July 18 17:23 BST (UK)
Still looking for William Bestfords parents. It looks as if William Bestford born in Cowpen 1853-1858 ?.Has changed  to bessford in the 1891 census
and back to Bestford in 1911 he is with his 2 sons george and thomas also Alice Cuell whose previous surname was Boddy.
In 1891 he is with his family Julia Bessford (Boddy) and 6 step children plus further children.
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 10 July 18 18:05 BST (UK)
Which specific census records are you looking at to suggest that He's in 2 places under 2 surnames?
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 10 July 18 18:37 BST (UK)
Is this the 1911 that you are claiming?
(Restford on FS)  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMK-9P4
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: capslock on Wednesday 11 July 18 15:36 BST (UK)
Thank you Pauline J the 2 census records are 1891 Bedlington where he is under Bessford and Bestford. I think that the correct family is Bessford with Julia Boddy as Alas (Alice) Cuell was Julia Boddys daughter and was staying with William, George and Thomas Bestford in the 1911 census. I think Restford, Bessford is just a mistake but I cannot find any information about Williams parents or any marriage certificates . I have gone back with the wrong family with George and Jane Bestford
(besford) any help would be appreciated .
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 11 July 18 19:31 BST (UK)
Thank you Pauline J the 2 census records are 1891 Bedlington where he is under Bessford and Bestford.

Sorry, but to be sure which (other) 1891 record you are considering, provide the reference(s).
I gave the refs for 1891 with Julia in an early reply. FS is playing up for me at the moment

Is this the one you are looking at?
(1891) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:H3JR-2ZM
1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-H1Y8
1871 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V51B-D2K
1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7JD-V7Q
 
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 11 July 18 19:48 BST (UK)
BESFORD, WILLIAM       LEE     1857  M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 174
BESFORD, DOROTHY       LEE      1859  S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 178
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: capslock on Thursday 12 July 18 14:59 BST (UK)
Thank you Pauline J
The other Bestford people have suggested is (1891) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:H3JR-2ZM Sorry but not quite sure what this refers to

BESFORD, WILLIAM       LEE     1857  M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 174
BESFORD, DOROTHY       LEE      1859  S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 178
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: capslock on Saturday 11 August 18 16:12 BST (UK)
Still trying to find William Bestford parents this is the family I am following to present day any help

1891 he is at Choppington Colliery under the name of Bessford with his wife Jullia (Boddy) and children.
1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS96-SG2
1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMK-9P4
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 August 18 17:23 BST (UK)
Nothing to do with your original question but found this;

Baptisms;
St Paul, Choppington
JOHN CHRISTOPHER Boddy 3 Dec 1878
ALICE Boddy 9 Sep 1880
Parents WILLIAM/JULIA
Abode Guide Post
Fathers Occp Barber

1861 William Fowler BODDY married Jane Amelia Wheaton in Glous.
Father CHRISTOPHER Boddy
They appear on the 1861 Census in Bristol, Glous
William Boddy, 22, Hairdresser, born Edinburgh, Scotland
Amelia Boddy, 22

1871 William Boddy age 29 is a Widr, Hairdresser, living in St James, Clerkenwell born c 1842 Scotland.

William Fowler Boddy
Gender:   Male
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1841
Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Baptism Place:   Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father:   Christopher Boddy
Mother:   Alice Fowler

Death seems to be reg 1880 Morpeth age 40

Marriage;
Christopher Boddy
Marriage Date:   1836
Marriage Place:   Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Spouse:   Alice Fowler

1841 in Edinburgh we have;
Christopher Boddy, 20, Straw Plait Merchant, born England
Alice Boddy, 25, born England
Thomas Boddy, 4, born England
Margt Richardson, 14
Title: Re: Bestford or Besford or Bessford
Post by: capslock on Tuesday 14 August 18 17:55 BST (UK)
Thank you tris1120 this looks like the family that Julia Boddy (Bessford) married into.
1871 William Boddy age 29 is a Widr, Hairdresser, living in St James, Clerkenwell born c 1842 Scotland fits into the timeline of 1871-1876 when Julia married him and the right area but cannot find any information of marriage etc for William Boddy or William Bestford (Bessford)which may or may not help in finding the parents of william Bestford (Bessford).