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Title: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 20:31 BST (UK)
Hello,

Can anyone tell me which church this was at?

Name:   James Scarr
Spouse's Name:   Eliza Stocker
Event Date:   16 Apr 1843
Event Place:   Cambridge, England

Thanks,

Adam
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 14 June 18 21:08 BST (UK)
If they were both living in Cambridge in 1841 - check the 1841 census for the ecclesiastical parish they were living in which may help with which church they married in
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 21:10 BST (UK)
They were in St. Andrew's the Less.
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 14 June 18 21:12 BST (UK)
You haven’t given the details of the GRO registration, but if you plug them into Marriage Locator you may get an answer:

http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk

Not everyone married in a C of E church, though.
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 21:44 BST (UK)
I put them in but no luck  :'( thanks anyway. It's in English Marriages on FamilySearch but no church is listed.
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: JenB on Thursday 14 June 18 21:57 BST (UK)
The entry on Family Search for this marriages gives the microfilm number 1,040,430 (you can see this in the section marked 'Citing this record'.) The correct number would be 1040430 i.e. no commas.

Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N63Y-D5S : 9 March 2018), James Scarr and Eliza Stacker, 16 Apr 1843; citing Cambridge, England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,040,430.


I explained to you how to use this number a few days ago http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=794871.msg6515148#msg6515148  :)


Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 22:11 BST (UK)
I'll have to note that down. It must have slipped my mind before. Thanks.

Edited: I've bookmarked it so I think I've got the hang of it now  :)
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: JenB on Thursday 14 June 18 22:16 BST (UK)
I'll have to note that down. It must have slipped my mind before. Thanks.

I did say ‘Bookmark it now’  ;D. It’s a bit frustrating when you’ve given advice on how to find something and it’s already been forgotten!
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 14 June 18 22:16 BST (UK)
Yes, sorry about that  ::) I'm quite slow, much to the frustration of most who know me.
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: WhiskyMac on Friday 15 June 18 19:28 BST (UK)
Yep me too MacGrigor ...... unless there is cake up for grabs.  ;D

St Andrew the Less.

The Abbey Church is a small church formerly known as St Andrew the Less, thought to have been built
in the thirteenth century and is on Newmarket Road.

The parish of St Andrews the Less has been taken over by Christchurch close by, also on Newmarket Rd.
Christ Church was consecrated by the Bishop of Ely, on 27 June 1839.
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 15 June 18 19:36 BST (UK)
Oh. I followed JenB's instructions and found the marriage at Holy Trinity Church. Did I go wrong somewhere? Are you sure the marriage took place at St. Andrew the Less?
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 15 June 18 20:32 BST (UK)
Marriage not at Holy Trinity
BTs have
10 April 1843 - number 127 - John Fromant Witt + Susannah Molineux
7 May 1843 - number 128 - Frederick Pratt + Sarah Harmond

See them here (must be logged in!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9YG-GSMW-5?i=594&cat=779882

Those marriages can be found in the GRO index that quarter, Cambridge, volume 14, pages 17 and 18
James Scarr + Eliza Stocker are way back, indexed page 4
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 15 June 18 20:34 BST (UK)
Microfilm 1040430
Holy Trinity Church, Cambridge
Marriages, 1801-1876; Marriage banns, 1801-1835; Burials, 1813-1875; Marriage banns, 1835-1875

Could be FamilySearch have indexed the banns? 16th April 1843 was a Sunday.
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 15 June 18 20:36 BST (UK)
Oh no  ::) so where was it at?
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 15 June 18 20:38 BST (UK)
Maybe St Andrew the Less!
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: JenB on Friday 15 June 18 20:39 BST (UK)
Microfilm 1040430
Holy Trinity Church, Cambridge
Marriages, 1801-1876; Marriage banns, 1801-1835; Burials, 1813-1875; Marriage banns, 1835-1875

Could be banns? 16th April 1843 was a Sunday.

In that case it looks like the record Adam saw is misleading and isnt the actual marriage  :-\
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 15 June 18 20:40 BST (UK)
Quite possibly, as that's where they would live. But this means the marriage date I have recorded is wrong, as is the church.
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 15 June 18 20:40 BST (UK)
Microfilm 1040430
Holy Trinity Church, Cambridge
Marriages, 1801-1876; Marriage banns, 1801-1835; Burials, 1813-1875; Marriage banns, 1835-1875

Could be banns? 16th April 1843 was a Sunday.

In that case it looks like the record Adam saw is misleading and isnt the actual marriage  :-\

It was listed under England Marriages! Oh well  ::)
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: JenB on Friday 15 June 18 20:48 BST (UK)
Yes, that date is Banns.

Marriage 22 April, St Andrew the Less.

Thanks to jonw65 for doing the double-checking and proving Ancestry’s record to be incorrect  ::)
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 15 June 18 20:49 BST (UK)
Thank you! And yes, thanks to jonw65.
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 15 June 18 20:52 BST (UK)
Next on my list of GRO PDFs to buy is James and Eliza's daughter, Eliza, born in 1847. Sadly, no christening for her has ever been found but it'll be another nice one to add to my collection of 2  :)
Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: JenB on Friday 15 June 18 21:00 BST (UK)
Yes, that date is Banns.

Marriage 22 April, St Andrew the Less.


Groom bachelor, full age, shoemaker of Downing Terrace, father John a labourer
Bride spinster, full age, servant of Newmarket Road Holy Trinity, father William a wheelwright

Title: Re: James Scarr and Eliza Stocker
Post by: MacGrigor on Friday 15 June 18 21:20 BST (UK)
Yes, that matches with everything I have! Thank you.