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Title: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: pergamond on Friday 15 June 18 01:18 BST (UK)
Hi, just wondering if anyone can help please with tracing Thomas Alcock's parents? (I have his children.) He was born about 1849 in Hanley, Staffordshire, and died 1 Aug 1932. I'm also interested in his wife's parents - Ann Mulligan born about 1849 in Preston, Lancashire, died in 1895. I think Thomas and Ann married in Preston in 1874.
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 15 June 18 08:05 BST (UK)
The marriage should name their fathers
Dec qtr 1874   
ALCOCK    Thomas Henry       
Mulligan    Ann       
Preston    8e   861   

LancashireBMD has the marriage as  'Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended'
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: heywood on Friday 15 June 18 08:59 BST (UK)
This looks like Ann

1871 4204/92/9

3 Bowker Street Preston

George Mulligan   56 yrs tailor b Ireland
Ann Mulligan   56 yrs b Ireland
Elizabeth Mulligan 24 yrs
May Mulligan 27 yrs
Ann Mulligan 21 yrs
Joseph Mulligan nephew 16 yrs Tailor
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: pergamond on Friday 15 June 18 09:40 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie. Thanks Heywood - yes I agree, it looks like her. Thomas Alcock was a tailor as well, like Ann's father.
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: heywood on Friday 15 June 18 09:47 BST (UK)
That’s why I posted the occupations. I wonder if Thomas and Ann met through that or if Thomas acquired the trade through his in-laws. As yet I can’t find a matching Thomas in 1871.

Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: lancsann on Friday 15 June 18 14:11 BST (UK)
It looks like George's marriage to Ann was a second marriage for Ann

Daughters are registered with mmn - Carey (various spelling)

the marriage on lancashire BMD gives 2 surnames for Ann - Carey & Darby

In 1861 there is a Thomas Darby living with them stepson to George
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: lancsann on Friday 15 June 18 14:15 BST (UK)
possibly for George as well as there is a George with a mary in 1841 of the right age born Ireland who is a tailot
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: pergamond on Friday 15 June 18 19:27 BST (UK)
That is so interesting Lancsann! I wonder if the marriage gives the father for Ann born 1815.
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: pergamond on Tuesday 19 June 18 04:45 BST (UK)
I've decided to order the 1874 marriage cert for Thomas Alcock and Ann, because it's the only way I can be sure I have the correct people. Would you recommend doing this through Lancashire BMD or GRO? Which would be quicker?
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 19 June 18 08:08 BST (UK)
The GRO is normally cheaper £9.25.    I think Lancashire charges £10.

I doubt there would be much difference in time for delivery
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 19 June 18 09:15 BST (UK)
died 1 Aug 1932.
Buried in the Roman Catholic division of Preston Cemetery, 4 Aug 1932
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJN-QHPL?i=32&cat=987517

Some grave details are given, but the graves register is not digitized as yet.
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 19 June 18 13:34 BST (UK)
What a great find jonw65 -- I had no idea those records were on Family Search.
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:10 BST (UK)
I've decided to order the 1874 marriage cert for Thomas Alcock and Ann, because it's the only way I can be sure I have the correct people. Would you recommend doing this through Lancashire BMD or GRO? Which would be quicker?

Lancashire has original certificates. The facsimile copies I have from Lancashire show original signatures.
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:16 BST (UK)
What a great find jonw65 -- I had no idea those records were on Family Search.
Some of mine might be among them. One of my reasons for following and contributing to certain threads is in the hope of gleaning information and sources which may be useful later. Mutual benefit.  :)
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:48 BST (UK)
I've decided to order the 1874 marriage cert for Thomas Alcock and Ann, because it's the only way I can be sure I have the correct people. Would you recommend doing this through Lancashire BMD or GRO? Which would be quicker?

Lancashire has original certificates. The facsimile copies I have from Lancashire show original signatures.

This can't be guaranteed, I have some from Lancashire that do not show original signatures  ;)
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: pergamond on Tuesday 10 July 18 06:04 BST (UK)
Well just to keep everyone up to date, it was an 1874 Roman Catholic marriage, and I had been heading down the wrong track entirely with Thomas Henry Alcock's father. He was not the gilder Thomas Alcock, he was John Alcock, tailor, who had died before the marriage date. Just goes to show one mustn't presume.
Title: Re: Thomas and Ann Alcock from Preston
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 10 July 18 07:46 BST (UK)
That was well worth getting then  :)  At least you are back on track