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Title: Tyra Norgren
Post by: TomJonas on Friday 15 June 18 10:52 BST (UK)
I am looking for information about Tyra Wennerström,  married name Norgren. She was born on 24 nov 1890 in Sweden. Her grandmothers uncle was quite famous, Victor Kullberg, who fabricated chronometers and had a factory in London. Tyra moved to London probably in the 1920s and married a Swedish businessman in Wood Products, named Norgren. During the war she had a position in the annex of Churchill's 10 Downing St, working as a housekeeper. She died in 1964, probably in december, in Birmingham, Warwickshire. Her Swedish husband probably died before the war, and it is uncertain if she had any children.
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jim1 on Friday 15 June 18 11:15 BST (UK)
There appears to be 2 children  a son in 1916 & daughter in 1921.
She married Sven Norgren in 1915. She was his 2nd. wife. His 1st. wife Helen died the previous year.
Sven Norgren died in 1922.
Her probate gives an address of 17 Winchester St. Westminster however she was living at 34 St. Peter's Rd. Harborne at the time.
Administration went to her stepson Gerald Norgren.
She left just over £1200.
Her son Gerald continued to live at 17 Winchester St. until his death in 1982. He left over £38000.
London Electoral Rolls shows Gerald & his brother Pelle living together. I suspect their mother is there too but as she's not British she won't appear as a voter.
Pelle a seaman died in California 1981.
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 15 June 18 11:16 BST (UK)
Tyra was in England prior to the 1920's

Marriage June qtr 1915 
Norgren    Sven A   
Wennerstrom    Tyra B V   
Islington reg district    1b   524
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 15 June 18 11:17 BST (UK)
Also from freebmd https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Death Sep qtr 1922   
Norgren    Sven A    age 39   
Islington    1b   205
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jamcat95 on Friday 15 June 18 11:21 BST (UK)
Hi
I have a Tyra Wennersten born 16 Dec 1892. Could this be her? I haven't found a Wennerström......... yet!
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m7d/



Added:
Just thought....... you may know everything from Sweden. Let me know if you do please.


Ian

Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jim1 on Friday 15 June 18 11:49 BST (UK)
Quote
Tyra was in England prior to the 1920's

Marriage June qtr 1915 
Norgren    Sven A   
Wennerstrom    Tyra B V   
Islington reg district    1b   524
To save duplication see above.
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jamcat95 on Friday 15 June 18 11:53 BST (UK)
Thanks jim1

Just to clear up the birth record:
Tyra Brita Viktoria:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m7e/


Ian

Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: TomJonas on Friday 15 June 18 12:36 BST (UK)
Thankyou so much for all your eminent answers!
Yes, I know quite a lot about her time in Sweden, she was born in my small home village. She took her exam at the high school in Gävle 1909.
When Victor Kullberg died a nephew, Peter or Pehr Wennerström, took over the Company, and Tyra visited him several times before she moved to London.
There was some problem with her employment as she was a foreigner, but Churchill wanted her for the job. Sometimes she served Swedish food at the annex. And once she got a gift from Churchill when he came home from a meeting with Roosevelt - a bag of fresh lemons.
I mailed the office at 10 Downing St trying to obtained any photo, but they had none. You might think that there should be some photo from the annex at least.

I add a photo of Tyra, probably taken at the time of her exam at 19 years of age.
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jamcat95 on Friday 15 June 18 12:41 BST (UK)
Thanks for that TomJonas.
Interesting story and a great photo and I wish you luck in further researches.

mvh
Ian

Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jim1 on Friday 15 June 18 12:53 BST (UK)
I don't like to spoil the party however the photo you've attached is early 1890's when she would have been a baby.
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: TomJonas on Friday 15 June 18 13:15 BST (UK)
How do you know that it is early 1890s?
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jim1 on Friday 15 June 18 14:13 BST (UK)
The style of dress with the raised shoulder was called a kick-up. It was a short lived creation & superseded by the more familiar Gigot. So a date range of 1889-93 & I suspect the latter of those dates.
Her hair is also of the period.
You won't see any woman dressed like this or have her hair like this in the 1900's.
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: TomJonas on Friday 15 June 18 19:56 BST (UK)
jim1,

Absolutely correct! I have consulted an expert in female fashion, and she agrees with you completely.
So now we have a mystery. Who is this woman on the photo. We know that Tyra ordered copies from the photographer in Gävle. Furthermore, there is another photo. With a mysterious handsome man,
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jim1 on Friday 15 June 18 21:18 BST (UK)
Could it be her mother.
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: TomJonas on Friday 15 June 18 22:52 BST (UK)
It is possible. We know quite a lot about her parents, but have absolutely no photo of them. Her father died in difteria 1899.
Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: jamcat95 on Saturday 16 June 18 08:48 BST (UK)

 We know that Tyra ordered copies from the photographer in Gävle.


Hi TomJonas
A longshot here but there are many photos from Gävle here at "Porträttfynd" from different photographers. Some with names some without:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m7h/

I hope the link works.


Ian

Title: Re: Tyra Norgren
Post by: TomJonas on Saturday 16 June 18 10:45 BST (UK)
Ian,

Thanks for your tip.
But no luck, none of the man and woman in our photos were there.