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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: judb on Monday 18 June 18 08:31 BST (UK)
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Does anyone have access to the parish records which would have the marriage between John DYER and Lydia SHEPHERD, 6 May 1791.
I have plenty of information about the SHEPHERD family and the couple themselves after their marriage. What I am trying to find is any information about the origins of John DYER. His residence at the time of marriage is given on one document as East Greenwich and another as Camberwell. I wonder if there is any other clue on the register. The couple's first children were baptised at Greenwich and John himself worked for The Admiralty.
Cheers, Judith
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I'll happily have a look in the Portsmouth History Centre for you but I'm away for a week and won't make it until next Monday.
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The marriage is transcribed on the Hampshire OPC site Kinghtroots and states that John Dyer is from the Parish of East Greenwich eg that is where he was living at the time of the marriage.
Emeltom
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Thank you so much, antiquesam. That would be much appreciated. I thought I'd looked before but can't remember finding anything, however it may be worth another look. I have seen the marriage allegation.
Thanks also emeltom. That's where I found one of the records of his place of residence. Just wondered if there may be some mention of witnesses on the actual register, but I think witnesses are not mentioned that early
Would banns have been read that long ago? Just thought that I should also check in the records for his parish, but i doubt there'll be anything. John DYER's origins are very elusive; he was born in Somerset about 1767 but that's all I have, and, as I said, he seems to have been in London/Greenwich at the time of his marriage and just after.
Judith
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John DYER of the parish of East Greenwich in the County of Kent bachelor & Lydia SHEPHARD of this parish spinster married in this church by licence from Dr Commons 6 May 1791 both signed in the presence of Jno SHEPHARD & Robert SHEPHARD
That's the entry from the Hampshire OPC site, as you can see the witnesses were obviously from Lucy's family.
Emeltom
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Thanks, again Emeltom. Yes that's the information i had (if only my brain worked well!!)
I wonder if there are records of licences from Doctors Commons.
Need to explore further.
Thanks, again
Judith
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Where did you get the information that he was born c1767 in Somerset? Do you have a death for him, and if so, what details do you have?
Emeltom
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It might be worth loking at this previous thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=290250.0
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I've viewed the microfiche record for the marriage and the only additional information is that they were married under licence from the District Sessions and it was conducted on the 16th of May, not the 6th as indicated.
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Thank you emeltom - much appreciated.
bearkat Thanks for your interest. I have his birth year from some papers written by his daughter and from the age given at his death. The previous thread that you kindly linked is one I started a good while ago. Since then I've found a lot about John DYER, including his children, 2nd and 3rd marriages, death and quite a lot about his professional and religious life BUT I can go no further back than this 1791 marriage. He must have been well-educated to have enough income to marry quite well in 1791 and also to fill the posts he later held (Chief Clerk of the Admiralty).
Thanks again, Judith