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Title: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Jonlouisville77 on Monday 18 June 18 10:09 BST (UK)
My ggg-grandfather Cornelius Lannen (Lannan, Lannon), born in 1840 or 1841 has long been the dead end in my family tree. His US Civil War induction papers list Leitrim as his place of birth, and there are 2 Petty Sessions records of a Cornelius Lannen in Carrick-on-Shannon, Co. Leitrim in 1855. Hopefully the same individual and not a doppelganger. He emmigrated to the US no later than 1859 and was married with a newborn child in Lexington, KY in 1860. Wife, Bridget Murphy  (1840-1881).

If anyone has more information, or some tips, I would love to hear it and I would be glad share what I have about the Lannen/Lannan Family in America.
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Monday 18 June 18 11:15 BST (UK)
Not too many on 1901 Census...  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m84/
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Jonlouisville77 on Monday 18 June 18 15:05 BST (UK)
No, there wouldn't be. In the Griffin's Land Valuation (1847-1860s) there were upwards of a thousand hits for Lannan/Lannon/Lannen across Ireland, mainly in counties Wexford, Waterford, Galway, and Leitrim. Leitrim was hit very hard during the Famine years, and most people who survived left for bigger towns, the United States, Canada, or Australia. I've been told that you're more likely to meet people who's family hails from Leitrim outside of Ireland than inside. By 1901 the nation was bouncing back from the potato blight and people from other counties were moving back into the farm lands of Leitrim.
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Monday 18 June 18 15:29 BST (UK)
I know....but just looking at where any where in 1901 possibly of same generation

You have to start somewhere!!
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Sinann on Monday 18 June 18 15:36 BST (UK)
Did he marry Bridget in the US?
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Monday 18 June 18 15:48 BST (UK)
"there are 2 Petty Sessions records of a Cornelius Lannen in Carrick-on-Shannon, Co. Leitrim in 1855" ....but what details are on them??
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Maggsie on Tuesday 19 June 18 09:21 BST (UK)
Hi,
I think I have found the marriage.....I searched with just Cornelius and Bridget, took a while then saw this record.
December 1859 Fayette Kentucky.
The record reads.....Lavin but when you see the actual document is Lannin.
Is this place in the same area as Lexington?

Maggsie
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Jonlouisville77 on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:18 BST (UK)
Yes, Maggsie. He married Bridget in Lexington, Fayette Co., Kentucky. They had a son in 1860 and moved to Portland in Louisville, KY, where my family still lives today. I have lots of reliable records of the family in the US, but my records of these two immigrant teenagers in Ireland is a bit nebulous, to say the least.
I would love to run into someone on a forum like this who can help me connect my Cornelius and Bridget with already researched families in Ireland!
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:24 BST (UK)
Well you have, from Census, a 70 y.o. one in Kiltoghert Parish.


Have you looked through Kiltoghert Parish registers??
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:24 BST (UK)
"there are 2 Petty Sessions records of a Cornelius Lannen in Carrick-on-Shannon, Co. Leitrim in 1855" ....but what details are on them??
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Jonlouisville77 on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:29 BST (UK)
Hallmark, I'm not registered with findmypast yet, but Family Search showed a petty sessions record on May 11, 1855 and one on May 25th in the court of Carrick-on-Shannon. He was the defendant in both.
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:31 BST (UK)
OK.
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:37 BST (UK)
The only real option is to search     Baptisms 1839/40    in each Leitrim Parish...
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 19 June 18 16:38 BST (UK)
or 1841   ;D
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Jonlouisville77 on Tuesday 19 June 18 19:56 BST (UK)
Well you have, from Census, a 70 y.o. one in Kiltoghert Parish.


Have you looked through Kiltoghert Parish registers??7
I haven't, other than a few maps and headlines. I suppose I need to Google a list of parishes and go through each one.
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 19 June 18 20:27 BST (UK)
https://registers.nli.ie/

Click Map

then  Leitrim
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Jonlouisville77 on Tuesday 19 June 18 20:34 BST (UK)
Wow. Thanks!
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 19 June 18 20:48 BST (UK)
There is a basic filter there... most names seem to be underlined in some registers!
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Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: gaffy on Wednesday 20 June 18 00:51 BST (UK)
NLI coverage of available registers isn't 100%, note that the RootsIreland website has a number of transcribed 1830s/1840s baptisms for Kiltoghert parish for whom I think may be one couple variously recorded as Cornelius/Connor Lannon and Margaret/Mary Shanly, including a son Cornelius in 1837 and a son Conor in 1840.
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 20 June 18 06:27 BST (UK)
NLI coverage of available registers isn't 100%, note that the RootsIreland website has a number of transcribed 1830s/1840s baptisms for Kiltoghert parish for whom I think may be one couple variously recorded as Cornelius/Connor Lannon and Margaret/Mary Shanly, including a son Cornelius in 1837 and a son Conor in 1840.

?

The Registers for 1837 are online

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632388#page/69/mode/1up


Kiltoghart
All known copies of records.. 
Baptisms   Aug 16 1826 - Apr 23 1854   May 7 1854 - Dec 30 1880

https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0152&parish=Kiltoghart

So RootsIreland website has a number of transcribed 1830s/1840s baptisms for Kiltoghert parish from an unknown copy of records??

Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: gaffy on Wednesday 20 June 18 07:06 BST (UK)
There can exist several parish registers covering years within the same overall time period, you can see this yourself from what the NLI has made available online.  On occasions however, NLI doesn't always have online all of the available registers (eg. perhaps a register held by a church).

Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Maggsie on Wednesday 20 June 18 13:23 BST (UK)
Hi,
By searching the Tithe records using the Parish name of Kiltoghert and Lenn* …...there are 2 Lennon's listed.
Anna Lennon in the townland of Cunohashell
and
Pat Lennon in Kiltoghart (townland) Kiltoghert in County Leitrim
This was in 1834.

There is also a spelling Leneghan.

In 1856 there is a Connor Lannan in the townland of KILMADDAROE, same Parish
And a Michael Lannan in the townland of Fawn same Parish
Keep digging …..
Maggsie
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: Jonlouisville77 on Sunday 01 July 18 08:36 BST (UK)
Yes, I've crossed paths with Connor Lannen a few times in Kiltoghert Parish records recently.

In the petty sessions it describes a May 6th, 1855 event in which Peter Shanly of Kilmaddaroe accused Michael and Cornelius Lannen (from the neighboring village Clogher) of assaulting him, and Michael in turn accused Peter of assaulting him. The charge against 14 year old Cornelius was dismissed. Michael Lannen and Peter Shanly each had to pay a 5£ fine and "keep the peace" for 6 months.
I can only guess at the reasons behind the dispute, but I find it interesting that Connor Lannen can be seen via Griffith's as a neighbor of Peter Shanly's in Kilmaddaroe in 1851. The two of them had a legal dispute also! Cornelius would only have been 10 in 1851. Perhaps Connor was the father, uncle, or even grandfather of Michael and Cornelius Lannen. Hard to say.
Title: Re: Lannens of Leitrim
Post by: rathmore on Tuesday 17 July 18 12:34 BST (UK)
he fought for the Union regiments of Kentucky company E he was a Private
records held at National ParK Service

http://www.nps.gov

Service no. M386 Roll 16

records come under Lannen/Lannan/Lannon