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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: buckyb on Tuesday 19 June 18 06:00 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I have been trying to find, without much luck, details of the parents of Hannah Rowan. Hannah came to Australia as a Bounty Immigrant on the "Carthaginian" in 1842 at the age of 18. She was Roman Catholic and claimed her native place was Newry, Armagh.
She also stated her father was Patrick Rowan and that he was still alive when she arrived in Australia in January 1842. Her mother's name was not stated.
I haven't been able to find any details of Patrick or his wife and thought someone from Ireland maybe able to help or at least provide some clues. It is also possible the name may be a derivative of Rowan eg Roan.
Any thoughts or ideas would be most appreciated.
buckyb ???
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Newry https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0455
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family search
http://www.familysearch.org
says she is under: Hannah Rowes - domestic Servant aged 18 father Patrick Rowan still alive, newry, armagh
ship Carthaginian
brought in by Miss Aspinall of Brown and Co.
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Thanks hallmark and rathmore
I will see what I can find from those sites. I have previously searched the familysearch site without much luck, though I don't think I have looked under the Rowes name.
buckyb
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Thanks again hallmark for pointing me to the NLI site. A great site for present and future reference.
I think I found the baptism entry for Hannah. There is an entry on 22 Nov 1820 for the baptism of a child of Pat and Bolly(?) Rowan, no christian name given.
The date of birth is inconsistent with her immigration record but gels with the date of birth stated on her daughter Mary Jane Thompson's birth certificate. Perhaps she put down her age for bounty reasons.
I think her mother's name is shown on the entry as Bolly however it could be Betty, were either of these two names in vogue in Northern Ireland in the 1800s ?
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If you mean this one (bottom of left page) ...
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633284#page/10/mode/1up
... then the christian name is indeed given, it's just that damage (a crease?) on the page has obliterated the ending of the name, however the first 2 letters look clear enough, 'Ja', so perhaps Jane or James? And yes, the mother is Betty (Elizabeth), not uncommon (look further up the page).
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Thanks Gaffy
I think you are right it looks like the first two letters are Ja, the first letter certainly doesn't look like an H.
It would seem that this entry could perhaps relate to a sibling of Hannah, I couldn't find any other Rowan entries for Pat and Betty. This could mean that Hannah was not baptised or she was born in a different county and later moved to Newry.
Back to the drawing boards and some more searching.
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Hi All
This is probable a long shot on my part, however
1. I have over a dozen dna matches to the Ross family of Balbair , Scotland. One branch of that line
is James P Ross (1715-1788) who was born in Antrim, Ireland. He died in Rowan County, North
Carolina.
2. Rowan County was named after the first mayor, Mathew Rowan (1703-1760) who was born in
Rathfryland, Down, Ireland. A town very close to Newry.
I am wondering if there was any connection between the Ross family and the Rowan family in North Carolina or in Antrim Ireland around the mid 1700s. This could connect Hannah Rowan and Mathew Rowan and account for my apparent dna matches to the Ross family.
Any comments, observations or suggestions, whether good or bad would be most appreciated.
buckyb
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Could it be Joannah? A variant of Hannah?
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Thanks Hallmark
I guess that is possible however on all the documentation I have she has been called Hannah.
Are you thinking that there is a chance that the J in the baptismal entry might stand for Joannah?
It certainly is worth keeping an open mind on that prospect.
buckyb
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Thanks Hallmark
I guess that is possible however on all the documentation I have she has been called Hannah.
Are you thinking that there is a chance that the J in the baptismal entry might stand for Joannah?
It certainly is worth keeping an open mind on that prospect.
buckyb
It is something to consider!
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It is.
Many thanks.
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Thanks Hallmark for the Baptismal record.
Does anyone think that I should now move this thread to the United States forum?
If so how do I go about it?
buckyb
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James P Ross Snr was born in Antrim Ireland in 1715, he married Mary Woods in Ireland 1740 and migrated with her and their children to the United States sometime after 1744. He died in Rowan County, North Carolina in 1788.
I have many dna matches to the Ross family which I ran past the DNA forum, they consider that the matches are most likely true (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=796514.0).
It was also suggested that the results may imply an extra marital connection.
Looking back in Ireland I have found a Robert Ross Rowan whose parents were Andrew Rowan (b 1693) and Margaret Stewart (b1700). Robert appears to be the right generation of a potential offspring of James Ross.
I have also found a dna match to Andrew and Margaret Stewart.
I have searched for information on Robert Ross Rowan but all the family trees seem to be a bit confused and short of information.
In light of the above I would very much appreciate any information,comments or help on details of Robert Ross Rowan, bearing in mind that my direct relative is Patrick Rowan who was born a few generations later.
Thanks buckyb
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Thanks All
I am closing this site it seems to have run into a dead end.
I am opening a new thread in the Ireland - Down site re Robert Ross Rowan'