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Independent Islands => Isle of Man => Topic started by: diane5250 on Tuesday 19 June 18 15:46 BST (UK)
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found an entry on family search for these stones in kc lezayre old yard. the last two frederick and robert are my ancestors, would it seem probable that this charles crow would also be from the same family since they are buried close to each other. Frederick and Roberts father was john Crow, just wondering who this Charles might be. maybe just a longshot and not related at all.
K.C.Lezayre Old Yard [stones 304 & 306] [stone304] Here repose the remains of Charles Crow who departed this life February 9th 1805 aged 56 years. [stone 306]Erected by John Crow in memory of his brother Fredrick who died Febry 27th 1799 aged 2 years. Also of his brother Robert Crowwho was unforunately drowned Feby 19th 1817 aged 22 years.
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There is this baptism?
27th September 1747
Charles, son of Charles Crow and Elizabeth Casement
at Kirk Christ Lezayre
(the "kc" refers to Kirk Christ ;D)
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I should also point out that the Burial entry for Robert states:
Robt from Ramsey who perished at Sea, 23rd February 1817
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thank you. i was wondering about this Charles possibly being related to this family. Frederick and Robert also had a brother named Charles but he did not die until 1825, also from drowning.
i'm wondering if the charles who died in 1805 could have some connection to this family. The father and mother of Frederick/Robert were married in kirk Christ. maybe i'll see if i can find out who this charles married or if he had a brother named john. thanks for replying.
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Kirk Christ Lezayre has 300 Crow/Crowe burials from 1696 until 1998!
And another 62 in Bride; 66 in Jurby; and another 62 in Maughold.
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Kirk Christ Lezayre has 300 Crow/Crowe burials from 1696 until 1998!
And another 62 in Bride; 66 in Jurby; and another 62 in Maughold.
thanks very much, my Crows were in lezayre, maughold and Ramsey. maybe this Charles is of no relation to the family i am researching. The father of Robert and Frederick, john Crow is buried there, he died in 1832, and also another son john Crow buried there , he died in 1833, age 43.
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Is this your John?
deed NSS Oct 1836 20:dated 29 Jan 1831;John Crowe(Nairy) + wife Elizabeth + mother Ann Crow sell for £220(British) to William Crow(of the sd place) my estate of the Nairy qtrland + intack rent 10s; Witt John Christian, William Logan x
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Is this your John?
deed NSS Oct 1836 20:dated 29 Jan 1831;John Crowe(Nairy) + wife Elizabeth + mother Ann Crow sell for £220(British) to William Crow(of the sd place) my estate of the Nairy qtrland + intack rent 10s; Witt John Christian, William Logan x
Thank you, thats interesting, although my Crows john and elizabeth, owned land in East Aust. they had a grandson named john Charles Crow, son of john Crow jr. i was told sometime ago that instead of john Charles Crows name on the tithe plan, there was the name of a William Crow. so this information is interesting to me. trying to follow all leads and very much appreciate any information.
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the previous deed dated 22 Nov 1832;John Crowe(Ramsey) + wife Margaret +Elizabeth Crow(widow) sell for £110(Britist) to John Kneale(Aust, Lezayre) (+ with
consent of Ann, Maria + Elizth Callow, spinsters, Ramsey mortgagers of sd premises) the estate of East Aust to John Kneale ...
the tithe plan (#142 east Aust) has Wm Crow as owner but not occupier - Neary(#144) is owner occupied by Wm Crow (as per earlier deed I mentioned)
a John Kneale (#207) is owner occupier of land in Aust
(these parcels are unfortunately not indicated as such in Woods atlas as the later Asylum plans are used
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the previous deed dated 22 Nov 1832;John Crowe(Ramsey) + wife Margaret +Elizabeth Crow(widow) sell for £110(Britist) to John Kneale(Aust, Lezayre) (+ with
consent of Ann, Maria + Elizth Callow, spinsters, Ramsey mortgagers of sd premises) the estate of East Aust to John Kneale ...
the tithe plan (#142 east Aust) has Wm Crow as owner but not occupier - Neary(#144) is owner occupied by Wm Crow (as per earlier deed I mentioned)
a John Kneale (#207) is owner occupier of land in Aust
(these parcels are unfortunately not indicated as such in Woods atlas as the later Asylum plans are used
thank you Frances, that john Crow married to margaret is the son of john and Elizabeth Crow. i didn't have that information on the deed. i did find some deed, where john crow Sr. and Elizabeth gave some land to their daughter maria Crow. so appreciate the help. i love all this new info. :)
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I have other deeds re John Crowe + East Aust summarised on my CD - basically he was too heavily in debt not being able to pay the several mortgages taken from abt 1800
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I have other deeds re John Crowe + East Aust summarised on my CD - basically he was too heavily in debt not being able to pay the several mortgages taken from abt 1800
oh wow, is that available somewhere to buy. i think i might like to see that. i'm trying to see if there is something anywhere that leads me to his parents. i did go to the imuseum website and found a reference to that one deed of john crow and elizabeth and was able to find it in the deeds on the family search site. thanks for all this great information.
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look up manxnotebook - the site is also in my profile
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As KGarrad points out, Crow was by no means an uncommon name in Lezayre parish.
I believe Charles senior was the 6th (but 3rd surviving) son of Captain Charles Crow of Glanduff and his wife Isabel née Corlett; he was baptized at Lezayre on 28 Jan. 1713 and died by 1754.
On 21 Nov. 1738 he married Elizabeth Casement who I think was the 4th daughter of the late William Casement of The Kella, Sulby, and his late 1st wife Jane née Wattleworth. Elizabeth was baptized 26 Mar. 1715. Her elder sister Jane had previously married Charles' elder brother William. And I think they were cousins, William Casement's mother having been Elizabeth Crow of Glanduff.
Can anyone confirm or refute any of the details in that paragraph?
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I would only offer a minor correction - it was Glenduff! ;D
At Glenduff these days is a Highways Dept. depot - I was up there last week picking up "Road Closed" signs, road cones (36 of them!), and yellow crowd barriers. :D
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As KGarrad points out, Crow was by no means an uncommon name in Lezayre parish.
I believe Charles senior was the 6th (but 3rd surviving) son of Captain Charles Crow of Glanduff and his wife Isabel née Corlett; he was baptized at Lezayre on 28 Jan. 1713 and died by 1754.
On 21 Nov. 1738 he married Elizabeth Casement who I think was the 4th daughter of the late William Casement of The Kella, Sulby, and his late 1st wife Jane née Wattleworth. Elizabeth was baptized 26 Mar. 1715. Her elder sister Jane had previously married Charles' elder brother William. And I think they were cousins, William Casement's mother having been Elizabeth Crow of Glanduff.
Can anyone confirm or refute any of the details in that paragraph?
thank you, and yes its not an uncommon name, once i got to john Crow and Elizabeth Christian marrying in kc lezayre in 1787 it was hard to find more info, so i was wondering if that Charles might be related. i did find information on family search about this family but some of it seems to be wrong. they showed maria Crow, daughter of john and elizabeth marrying william corkill which is wrong, she married peter white. Rebecca and jane married William Corkill. they had info listed for Elizabeth Christians parents but again i'm not sure its correct.
i appreciate all the info and expertise i get from other posters. :)