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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: MacGrigor on Thursday 21 June 18 14:09 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I know that Henry Stockton married Sarah Stubbs in Market Drayton in 1821. Sarah Stubbs was born there in 1802. However, his wife in 1851 and 1861 gives different birthplaces. Did Henry remarry at any point? He was a railway labourer so frequently moved. My ancestor is his daughter Elizabeth, born in Yorkshire in 1840. I still have no burial or death record for Henry.
I'd appreciate any help!
Adam
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However, his wife in 1851 and 1861 gives different birthplaces.
Is she still called Sarah?
Are the birthplaces wildly different or places located close to each other? You might put down a specific village on one but round it up to the nearest town on another for example.
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She's called Sarah on both. One appears to be Gloucester and the other is Hallington, Kent. So I really don't know. I'm not sure if this Sarah is the mother of my Elizabeth or the Sarah Stubbs is.
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I still have no burial or death record for Henry.
Does he appear in 1841 - when have you last sight of him?
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My ancestor is his daughter Elizabeth, born in Yorkshire in 1840.
No birth certificate for her with mothers maiden name I take it so if you can find her birth registration on the GRO index it should give her mothers maiden name.
What district in Yorkshire was she born?
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I can't find any births for Elizabeth Stockton 1840 on the GRO index :(
There's one in 1841 Halifax mothers name Barker but don't think she is yours.
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One appears to be Gloucester and the other is Hallington, Kent.
Sorry I can't see any Sarah Stockton born 1802 on census born Hallington Kent - is she a widow, married, how old.
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It's the 1861 census in Awre, Gloucestershire, except this Sarah is aged 44, which suggests Henry remarried to another Sarah.
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Yes, the Barker one is someone else. Previous posts on Elizabeth Stockton specifically concluded that her birth wasn't indexed.
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Think I have it now sorry for all the questions!
1851
Henry 46
Sarah 37
William 14
1861
Henry 60
Sarah 44
William 25
So where is little Elizabeth in 1851?
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We're not sure. But she married William Harding in Shurdington, Gloucestershire in 1857. She gives her father as Henry Stockton. She then disappears and re-emerges in Essex as the wife of William Goddard, who she formally married in 1882.
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The Elizabeth that married early 1857 gives her age as 20 so born c1837. Fathers occupation looks like gardener.
Will have a look for her it's intriguing 8)
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There was a previous thread on it. She was quite a mystery. But the Rootschatters decided that 1840 Elizabeth was her, as she gave her father as Henry Stockton, contractor, and on one census gave her birthplace as Woodscase, Staffordshire, and the family lived in Woodseaves, Staffordshire.
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She then disappears and re-emerges in Essex as the wife of William Goddard, who she formally married in 1882.
I wonder why she made her mark on that marriage but signed her name when she married the first time!
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Goodness knows. Nothing about her surprises me. I don't even know when she died. She disappeared after 1891, but there is a 1901 record in Stratford for an Elizabeth Harding born in Not Known, Staffordshire.
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Did she have a daughter Florence in 1884 Fulham - Florence Goddard mothers name Stockton.
And Henry Harding late 1857 mothers name Stockton. I wonder what happened to husband no 1.
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Yes, she did have Florence. I've no idea about her life as a Harding sadly.
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=775669.0
Here's the previous thread that focused on Elizabeth, but not on her mother.
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The family in Aston in 1841 show Sarah to be 40, which would match with the 1802 christening in Market Drayton. Maybe not the younger wife Henry has.
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A family tree has death for Henry in 1861 Awre Glos and for Sarah Stubbs in 1877 Aston Warwickshire with a burial for her 26 Apr 1877 Duddeston St Matthew.
The tree has another marriage for Henry to Sarah Stubbs this time her death 1841-1851 so I'm guessing this is just a guess.
Maybe the age of the Sarah buried in 1877 ** would help pin down which one she was?
** Jun 1877 Aston age 78
I don't think that's the right Sarah.
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No, that would make her born 1799. Is there a registration for Henry Stockton in 1861?
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But still Sarah Stubbs appears to be the mother of my Elizabeth judging by the 1841 Census that gives the same age as Henry (she was a year younger).
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No Henry Stockton death in 1861
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Where do people get these dates from? Do they just pluck them from the sky? Honestly, it's so annoying. There's so much misinformation online, on Ancestry, on online trees. Time and time again I've found information relating to my ancestors, claiming someone was their wife or something, before you find this individual died shortly after birth. Why can't people be more thorough rather than misleading people?
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I know it is frustrating. My own grandfather someone had on a tree passing away in London and insisted this was correct even though I knew perfectly well when and where he died and told them the correct information.
The 1861 death for Henry I imagine is an "educated guess" going by when he is last seen but to have two marriages to the same woman with a different death for her on each is mind boggling.
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It's a very confusing family. Even with Henry himself, there is no sign of his parents before his birth. His father was Joseph Stockton and I know nothing of where he came from, when he married or when he died. I think Sarah's parents married in nearby Moreton Say but I can't be sure.