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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: Dragonluva on Saturday 23 June 18 05:34 BST (UK)
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Hi, I have struck a bit of a wall and am hoping someone might be able to help, please.
Louisa HOLLINGSWORTH on her marriage certificate in 1881 (New Zealand) she gives her age as 21, spinster, birthplace Stroud, Gloucester, England. Father William HOLLINGSWORTH (labourer) - Mother ----- HOLLINGSWORTH.
I have hunted and hunted but can't find anyone that fits. I don't know when she came to NZ but a family member told me that her sister fell off the ship when they got to NZ, and drowned, but I can't find anything on Papers Past.
Thank you for your time.
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When Louisa married - what where the names of her children (looking for family names)
HOLLINGSWORTH was not a common name in Gloucestershire and there is only John & Hannah (nee TERRY) HOLLINGSWORTH (from Birmingham) having a few children in Gloucestershire including a Louisa in 1857 - He was a railway clerk for the Railways - and people came from all over the country to work for the railways.
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There was a Stroud Workhouse - on the 1861 Census, there is for example, Foundling female aged 3 - born not known etc.
Orphans were sometimes sent to the Colonies
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That 'Louisa' is Louis a male birth registered March qtr 1858. Census has him as a Male
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This is a 'very long shot' but there is a STROOD in Kent and on the 1861 census is this family
HOLLINGSWORTH -
William 30 - Gas Works labourer, born Suffolk, Holton
Louisa - 28 -
Joseph - 5
Jane - 4
Matilda 1 month (this is Laura Matilda registered in Kent - mother's maiden name: STAMMERS from the GRO Index)
Baptised 9 October 1861 at Strood, near Rochester, Kent, parents William & Louisa
can't see any more children on the GRO Index after 'Laura'
although I can find Joseph on the 1871 census - at the moment can't find the rest of the family.
We do have a William and a Wife Louisa.
Did Louisa just say STROOD and not the County? and 'some-one' just assumed Gloucestershire
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Not sure what information NZ marriages have - are there witnesses :-\
Have you found any other Hollingsworth's in the area (NZ)
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I presume she married Thomas James Tracey 1881
There is also another 1881 Marriage;
EMILY Hollingsworth to George SMALLEY
Does the 1881 Marriage not have any extra info?
Witnesses etc.
Ones I have have excellent info.
Do you have her 1940 Death Cert also?
Also I would request a look up on the NZ Board for the Intention to Marry for Louisa/Thomas.
And possibly that Emily in case they are Sisters.
Trish :)
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Hi, Thank you all for your replies and help.
Capetown: Louisa married Thomas James TRACEY - their children are Charles Henry Edward, Thomas James William, Agnes Ann (after her father's mother) and Louisa Catherine. Catherine is also a TRACEY family name.
I also found the family in Strood, Kent and wondered if that could be them but Laura Matilda was buried 12 Nov 1861 and her mother Louisa was buried 29 Jan. 1862. Unless there was an older daughter called Louisa, but if there was she doesn't appear on the 1861 census.
The info I gave in my first post is as it appears on the marriage cert., but who knows if someone miss heard or assumed something.
Rosie99: There are witnesses on the cert. but they are the groom's sister and her soon to be husband.
There is a William HOLLINGSWORTH died in roughly the same area of NZ. In 1885 aged 63 years so it would be possible that he is Louisa's father.
Trish1120: There is nothing else helpful on the cert. Witnesses don't help as they are grooms family.
No, I have not got her death cert. as I have found them unreliable in the past because people supplying info often don't know much. But maybe I need to give it a try.
Thanks re Intention to Marry idea.
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Re Emily
Death notice, image not very clear!
Auckland Star, 29 September 1915
SMALLEY On September 28(?) at her late residence 73(?) Alexandra Street, after a long and painful slckness Emily, the beloved wife of G. Smalley and youngest daughter of the late Frederick Hollingsworth, Launceston, Tasmania, aged 59(?) years
Death reg says 59.
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This is a 'very long shot' but there is a STROOD in Kent and on the 1861 census is this family
HOLLINGSWORTH -
William 30 - Gas Works labourer, born Suffolk, Holton
Louisa - 28 -
Joseph - 5
Jane - 4
Matilda 1 month (this is Laura Matilda registered in Kent - mother's maiden name: STAMMERS from the GRO Index)
Baptised 9 October 1861 at Strood, near Rochester, Kent, parents William & Louisa
can't see any more children on the GRO Index after 'Laura'
although I can find Joseph on the 1871 census - at the moment can't find the rest of the family.
We do have a William and a Wife Louisa.
Did Louisa just say STROOD and not the County? and 'some-one' just assumed Gloucestershire
Not looking good :'(
Death Dec qtr 1861
Hollingsworth Laura Matilda - age 0
N Aylesford 2a 193
Death Mar qtr 1862
HOLLINGSWORTH Louisa -age 30
N.Aylesford 2a 202
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Thanks jonw65 and rosie99