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Title: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: Henry7 on Saturday 23 June 18 19:49 BST (UK)
George Frederick Bury died, aged 13, at Shooter's Hill, Kent, in August or early September 1845.  This is puzzling to me, because his family came from Liverpool, but had recently moved to Buckinghamshire.  Which is still a fair distance away, and I can't think of any Kent connection. 

Can anyone say if there was a hospital at Shooter's Hill around that time, please?

Harry.
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 23 June 18 20:10 BST (UK)
The Brook (fever) hospital came later.

It's very near to woolwich, was it a maritime/dockyard  family?
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 23 June 18 20:38 BST (UK)
There was also The Herbert, a military hospital, but again it was later - after the Crimean War.  There weren't many hospitals this early especially outside of London.
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: suzard on Saturday 23 June 18 20:46 BST (UK)
If I am following the correct family I can't find them in Liverpool or having recently moed to Bucks???

Is this his baptism?
George Frederick Bury
born 21 Oct 1831
Baptized at St Mary Walton on the Hill Lancs 5 Dec 1831
Parents Edward & Priscilla Susan Bury

it seems he was brought back to his birth place for burial
Burial no 1548 at Walton on the Hill Lancashire
George Frederick Bury age 13
died at Shooters Hill Kent

was he maybe at a school in Aspley Guise Bedfordshire in 1841???

Suz
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: groom on Saturday 23 June 18 20:53 BST (UK)
Interesting - looks as if his mother died in Thornton Heath, Surrey (near Croydon) in 1872

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m90/

Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 23 June 18 21:01 BST (UK)
He's mentioned here

https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/pdfplus/10.3366/jsbnh.1968.5.1.71

page 73

He was getting to be about the right age to be apprenticed  ???
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: groom on Saturday 23 June 18 21:06 BST (UK)
Is this his mother in 1851 in Hatfield- lots of servants

HO107; Piece: 1712; Folio: 39; Page: 25;


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Mrs Bury was born Priscilla Susan Falkner, the daughter of Edward Dean Falkner
(1750-1825), a wealthy Liverpool merchant, a Justice of the Peace, and High Sheriffof
Lancashire in 1788, and his wife Bridget (d.1819) only daughter of John Tarleton, M.P.

Links with name of one of her sons in the probate record.
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 23 June 18 21:28 BST (UK)
Recollections of Edward Bury ... By his widow

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tDlcAAAAcAAJ&dq=Recollections+of+Edward+Bury,+by+his+Widow&source=gbs_navlinks_s

only mentions one son, William Tarleton BURY
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: suzard on Saturday 23 June 18 21:40 BST (UK)
Looks like there was another son
Baptism St Mary Walton on the Hill Lancs
Edward James Bury born 5 may 1833 baptized 12 June 1833
Parents Edward and Priscilla Susan
looks like he is at a school in Walton on the Hill 1841 -and he married 12 Sept 1857 in York to Frances margaret - he lived in Scarborough and then married as a widower in Duffied Derbys 1871 to Eleanor Jane Hoskins

Suz
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: groom on Saturday 23 June 18 21:58 BST (UK)
Looks like there was another son
Baptism St Mary Walton on the Hill Lancs
Edward James Bury born 5 may 1833 baptized 12 June 1833
Parents Edward and Priscilla Susan

Suz

That would be the other one mentioned in the probate.
William Tarleton Bury died 4 years after his mother in Sheffield - he was a merchant and steel manufacturer.
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: bearkat on Saturday 23 June 18 22:06 BST (UK)
His death certificate may provide some answers.
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: suzard on Saturday 23 June 18 22:07 BST (UK)
I wondered if he may have been at some school at Shooters Hill but I can't quite tie in what we have found with Henry 7's request
He states the family were from Liverpool - on some census the boys do give their p.o.b. as Liverpool on others Walton on the Hill (which seems to be the correct place)

I can't find the family in Bucks in the 1840's?

Suz
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: groom on Saturday 23 June 18 22:55 BST (UK)

He states the family were from Liverpool - on some census the boys do give their p.o.b. as Liverpool on others Walton on the Hill (which seems to be the correct place)


Suz

There is a Walton on the Hill in Liverpool so perhaps they just gave the nearest large place.
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: tazzie on Sunday 24 June 18 08:32 BST (UK)
There is a tree on Ancestry.....
It states the following..1838 March chickenpox
                                  1838 June whooping cough
                                  1840 October scarlet fever
                                  29 August 1845 died of typhus after a few days illness
                                  4September 1845 buried with maternal grandparents in family vault.
All dates give the family bible as proof

Tazzie
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: bearkat on Sunday 24 June 18 09:35 BST (UK)
That's a brilliant find  :D
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: tazzie on Sunday 24 June 18 09:49 BST (UK)
Hi....

Some info on the school from 1841..

The Classical Academy. First mentioned in 1724 the school flourished over the years and by 1795 had around 140 boys boarding. One ex pupil rated it as the" best private school in England- only Rugby, apart from Eton and Harrow could compare with it". He goes on " half the clergy in the county and almost every  lawyer in Northamptonshire were educated there.
The Academy offered the following in 1810... English, Latin, Greek, French, writing, arithmetic, merchants accounts, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, navigation, practical surveying ...for 39 guineas per annum.
Drawing, dancing, music and military exercise on the usual terms.
George was there however when the school was in decline. Reverend Richard Pain who had taken over as headmaster in 1807 closed the Academy in 1844-45 he stayed on at Guise house. He built a wall down the middle of the school and sold off the playground school room and the dormitory to a local builder. All the headmasters during their term of office had purchased land around the village buying large plots. The Pain family still held land in the 1970s


Tazzie
Title: Re: Death at Shooter's Hill.
Post by: Henry7 on Sunday 24 June 18 10:05 BST (UK)
That's a brilliant find  :D
Yes, tazzie, it certainly is! 

Very many thanks for your information about the tree, and for your new post about the school!  These will both be an immense help to me.

Many thanks also to PaulineJ, bearcat, suzard and groom for all your replies to my query.


Harry.