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Title: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Sunday 24 June 18 19:00 BST (UK)
Would anyone have any information on James Caulfield who was born Jan 18, 1788 in Co. Tyrone and emigrated to Ohio, USA in 1839 with his whole family. He married Margaret Graham Abt 1814-1815 as their first child Margaret Jane was born July 16, 1816. Next child was Nancy born Dec 22, 1820. Not sure where third child, only son that I have, was James G., born abt 1822.
Fourth child was Matilda who was born July 28, 1823 near Belfast. Youngest child was Susannah born sept 12, 1829.
Would appreciate any help
Peggy
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 20 July 18 20:20 BST (UK)
I am still searching for info on James Caulfield. Yesterday, I  received the obit for his daughter  Elizabeth Enoch who died in 1888 in Humboldt, Richardson, Nebraska. She was born in Co. Antrim as per obit although her father James was born in Co. Tyrone as per his obit in Iowa. Elizabeth married Absalom M. Enoch,
It seems that the older children were born in Co. Tyrone, with son James being born in Annacloy?? on Oct 11, 1818. the whole family emigrated firstly to Ohio,  then Illinois to Iowa although son James died in Tennessee.
the father James married Margaret Graham about 1815 possibly in co. Tyrone. Is anyone else researching this family? Would dearly love to find James' parents.
Thank you
Peggy
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 04 August 18 05:31 BST (UK)
 I am thinking that James Caulfield was from Kilsally in County Tyrone.  I suspect the family was Catholic.  Would there be any hope of finding a birth  in 1788?
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 04 August 18 07:34 BST (UK)
Townlands gives Kilsally in the civil parish of Ballyclog
https://www.townlands.ie/tyrone/dungannon-upper/ballyclog/kilsally/
Irish Ancestors has the spelling as Kilsalley in the RC parish of Donaghenry
https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish_main.php?civilparishid=2330&county=&civilparish=Ballyclog
Donaghenry records start 1822
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0187
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 04 August 18 15:18 BST (UK)
 Thanks Sinann. The Caulfield name is mentioned under Ballyclog in Lewis’ topographical dictionary of 1837  although not James.  If the family was Catholic there is no hope of finding them in county Tyrone before they moved to County Antrim where Matilda was born in 1823.  If they were Church of Ireland maybe there is a hope of finding a couple children in Co. Tyrone these being James G. in 1818 (not 1822) and Agnes in 1820.

Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 04 August 18 20:04 BST (UK)
PRONI's Guide to Church Records (it is listed under IRELAND RESOURCES)-
C.I.  Ballyclog  (Armagh diocese)  Baptisms, 1818-1929; marriages, 1818-1932; burials, 1818-1989; preachers’ books, 1876-1966; vestry minutes, 1828-1926; Sustentation Fund account book, 1870-97.
MIC583/4, 15; CR/1/42; CR/1/79; MIC1/312
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 04 August 18 20:16 BST (UK)
Thank you.
Peggy
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 08 August 18 02:27 BST (UK)
I have learned that the baptisms that  I  have for the children of James Duffin married to Mary Caulfield came from a microfilm of Ireland Catholic Parish Armagh, Donoghenry, County Tyrone, Ireland. Residence Kilsally Parish-Bollyclog.
I am fairly certain that James Caulfield is Mary's brother and the baptisms of  his  first three children are in  Co. Tyrone, last three are in Co. Antrim.  James' first three  children are before 1820 so if  they are in the same parish, I  will not find them. Nor will I find the births of Mary or James.
Peggy
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: niccorr on Friday 10 August 18 01:02 BST (UK)
A William Caulfield and Alice Donnelly had a son Michael born 18 October 1829 The townland given is Ballymurphy an adjoining townland of Drumads You are probably aware that there are different spellings or mis-spellings of the Caulfield name
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 10 August 18 01:38 BST (UK)
Thank you niccorr.  That is a couple that I have not heard of before, as is Ballymurphy. I have seen Caulfield spelled with the L and without the L and with two Fs or one F.
 I wonder where there is a Catholic parish that would have records before 1822 . In other words I am wondering if James Caulfield could have baptized his children in a nearby to Donoghenry  Catholic Parish before 1822.  Or is it just that he would have used Donoghenry but it is just not recorded?
Peggy
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 10 August 18 01:52 BST (UK)
Sinann posted the Link https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0187  so you can check surrounding Parishes via the map there...
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 10 August 18 01:58 BST (UK)
Thank you hallmark.
Peggy
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Sinann on Friday 10 August 18 02:04 BST (UK)
Most parish records only start in the early 1820s as the laws eased leading up to Catholic Emancipation
https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/modern-europe/british-and-irish-history/catholic-emancipation
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 10 August 18 02:12 BST (UK)
Thanks Sinann. That  is an eye-opener. I just didn't realize the situation.
Peggy
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 11 August 18 21:53 BST (UK)
Still thinking about James Caulfield born 1788 and his family. Just because his sister Mary Duffin nee Caulfield became Catholic doesn't mean James was Catholic. I will still try to find some  baptisms for James' children.
Peggy
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Romandog1947 on Sunday 30 July 23 23:26 BST (UK)
I'm new to this Caulfield thread.  I'm searching for the parents of Henry Caulfield born 1767 in Lisburn, Castle DAwson, Antrim.  Is said to have married 1817 in Castle Dawson to Mary Castles born 1775 in Drumbeg, Co. Down, Ireland.  The couple departed Belfast 1820 or 1821 for America.

Could this Henry's mother's maiden name be Henry.  The Henry family was from Loughgiel, Antrim.

Thank You
Carson
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 31 July 23 08:22 BST (UK)
I'm searching for the parents of Henry Caulfield born 1767 in Lisburn, Castle DAwson, Antrim.  Is said to have married 1817 in Castle Dawson to Mary Castles born 1775 in Drumbeg, Co. Down, Ireland. 

Can you provide a source for this comment, please?

There's something odd here. Lisburn is a city in Co Antrim. Might you be referring to the townland of Leitrim in Castledawson E.D., Co. Londonderry?

...and it's a long way for Mary to come to be married in Castledawson in 1817.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4752745#map=10/54.6332/-6.2910


Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Romandog1947 on Monday 31 July 23 14:13 BST (UK)
Thank you. I'm traveling now. I'll be back with you ASAP.
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Romandog1947 on Wednesday 02 August 23 17:58 BST (UK)
It could be in error.  Henry and Mary immigrated to US in 1820 or 1821. Their daughter was born in Belfast in 1791 in Belfast. Her name was Isabella. She married James Dunn on 1 May 1817 in Castledown, Londonderry.  She and James immigrated to US with her parents. Her marriage location is family legend.

Henry Caufield was born 1767 in Castledown.  He married Married Mary Castles (Cassils) supposedly in 1787 .  However, she was very young. Family legend tells us that she was born 1775 in Drumbeg, Co. Down.

I'm looking for Henry's parents.

Does this information still seem suspect?

I've noticed that County Londondeery is 149.2 sq. Miles.   My home county, Brooks Co. Texas is not large by Texas standards at 944 Sq. MILES.     Ive done a lot of Hispanic geneaology for my area in the 1750-1820 era.  While most married people who were very close, there were instances of folks 35 or 40 miles apart marrying.

Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Romandog1947 on Wednesday 02 August 23 18:01 BST (UK)
Henry and Isabella Caufield both died in 1840 in Boligee, Greene County, Alabama.
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 02 August 23 18:09 BST (UK)
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I've noticed that County Londondeery is 149.2 sq. Miles.   My home county, Brooks Co. Texas is not large by Texas standards at 944 Sq. MILES.     Ive done a lot of Hispanic geneaology for my area in the 1750-1820 era.  While most married people who were very close, there were instances of folks 35 or 40 miles apart marrying.
You need to stop thinking of distances in American terms where things are much more spread out.

My grandfather's uncle (born 1850) wrote about his early days in 1924:
Of my mother’s father I knew but little as we lived at the then great distance of 7 or 8 miles and saw him only when he came to visit us or father and mother went to visit him, taking some of us children with them."
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 02 August 23 18:52 BST (UK)

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I've noticed that County Londondeery is 149.2 sq. Miles.

                     ???

Area
Londonderry has an area of 2,121.7 km² / 524,283.3 acres / 819.2 square miles.

https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/


Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Romandog1947 on Wednesday 02 August 23 19:45 BST (UK)
Wow, I wonder why my Google search returned 149.e sq miles severaltimes¿⁰
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: athacliath62 on Wednesday 02 August 23 20:08 BST (UK)
Wow, I wonder why my Google search returned 149.e sq miles severaltimes¿⁰

area covered by Derry City council according to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derry_City_Council)
Title: Re: James Caulfield, born Jan 18, 1788, Co Tyrone
Post by: Romandog1947 on Wednesday 02 August 23 21:18 BST (UK)
Thank you.