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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: EdCan on Tuesday 26 June 18 18:38 BST (UK)
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Richard Bird married Elizabeth Lottie Maria Morling 1904 Romford, Essex. The 1911 census shows the family living in Ilford and Richard showing born abt 1883 Bow, London. There does not appear to be a birth registration for him.
There is a family in 1901 living in Grays Thurrock, Essex which may be his. Mother Grace(1859) and children Sybilla(1881),Richard(1883 Bow) and Gertrude(1891). Same family in 1891 Islington with head of house William B Bird and Richard showing (1884 London)
Gro birth index shows Sibylla birth registered 1880 West Ham with mmn Fredrick. The only other birth showing mmn Fredrick is an unnamed male 1881 West Ham who appears to die shortly after birth. Getrude birth does not show up.
I could not find Richard in 1939 but wife Elizabeth is in Margate with youngest daughter and showing that she is married. Elizabeth dies 1971 Margate.
I am wondering if Richard and Gertrude are adopted. A possible death for Richard is 1948 Deptford.
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Richard - Army records says born c.1881 Exeter
Jennifer
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Seems strange that both his parents were born in Devon and he gives his place of birth for the army as Exeter Devon?
Jennifer
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One thing that struck me as peculiar is the 1881 birth record for the unnamed Bird male . There are actually two records for Sep West Ham. Two different volumes but the same page number. I did not know what to make of that.
Ed
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Do you have father William Bird in census, in Wembworthy Devon 1841
Jennifer
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Have not gone back tat far. I have been trying to figure out Richard and his family. Some of them are a puzzle. They are very distant relatives so I am loath to buy certs but I think I will need a couple of marriage certs.
Ed
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Family seem to come from Wembworthy Devon which comes under Taunton.
Birth reg Taunton 1880 5c 374 Richard Bird
Jennifer
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Father William Bird had a sister Sybilla
Jennifer
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The 1881 census shows William as born 1846 Wembury(?), Devon
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Can't find marriage between William and Grace nor can I find a birth or census entry for a Grace Fredrick/variants born in Plymouth???
Annette
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1841 Spicks Cross Wembworthy
Richard Bird 35 Carpenter
Mary 35
Richard 7
Grace 11
Isabella ? 5
William 1
1851 New Road Winkleigh
Mary widow 50 pauper born Coldridge
Grace 20 Glover born Wembworthy
Mary Ann 19 pauper invalid
Sybella 15 Dress maker
William Farmers boy 10 all born Wembworthy
1861 Chapel Cottage
Mary Bird 63 wid Almsoman widow of carpenter born Coldridge
Sybella 26 Dress maker
William 22 journeyman carpenter all born Wembworthy
Jennifer
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Family seem to come from Wembworthy Devon which comes under Taunton.
Birth reg Taunton 1880 5c 374 Richard Bird
Jennifer
mmn Pike
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Richard Bird married Mary Bealey 21/11/1829 Coldridge
The name Bealey seems to crop up as a middle name later.
Jennifer