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Title: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 27 June 18 12:26 BST (UK)
Hi, could anyone with access please look up if its there the marriage record of Mary who married William Laird in Marylebone in 1844 march q. Trying to establish her age and parentage. Freebmd records her death but the official GRO death search does not show her death in 1848.

Thanks

John
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 27 June 18 12:35 BST (UK)
Sorry , her death name of course was Mary Wilson Laird.

John
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 12:46 BST (UK)
www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

try this, it gives maiden name of mother and lists ages at death

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 12:53 BST (UK)
02 Mar 1844
St. Marylebone
Fathers ALEXANDER Rae and JAMES ADAMSON Laird

On Familysearch.Org but cant find a image of the Marriage on Anc.

I cant find the death reg on GRO either.
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:02 BST (UK)
Might mean a marriage cert John

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:06 BST (UK)
Found image;
William, full age, Engineer, bachelor, Father James Adamson Laird, Shipwright (deceased)
Mary, full age, Spinster, Father Alexander Rae, Sugar Planter (deceased)
Both living at 56 Market St
Witnesses hard to make out.
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:16 BST (UK)
Birth
James Alexander Laird
March qtr 1845
Kensington
MMN Rae

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:26 BST (UK)
Did William Laird marry Eliza Manchester 1849 Portsea

Possible James Alexander child of William and Mary Rae on 1851 living with
William Laird
Eliza and siblings?

Just a thought

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:29 BST (UK)
3rd child;
LAIRD, ELIZA, Mothers mn   MANCHESTER
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND UNION  Volume 07  Page 188

Marriage Reg Sept 1849 Portsea
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:30 BST (UK)
Yes thats them :)
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:31 BST (UK)
hi all, thanks for the info. Yes William did re-marry - Mary Manchester and went on to have quite a few children.

John
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:33 BST (UK)
Just off out for an hour or so, so if no response from me please forgive, will get back.

John
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:36 BST (UK)
William Laird
Gender   Male
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date   18 Apr 1817
Baptism Place   Limehouse St Anne Tower Hamlets, England
Parents JAMES ADAMSON Laird amd MARGARET
Father a Shipwright
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 13:56 BST (UK)
James Adamson LAIRD to Margaret SMITH
Marriage Date:   26 Sep 1812
Marriage Place:   St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 14:17 BST (UK)
Long shot?

1841 Scotland Census
Monifieth
County:Angus
Address:   Queen Street 36
Mary Morton, 78, Independant
Mary Wilson Rae, 20
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 14:28 BST (UK)
Familysearch has this;

Alexander Rae
1841
Gender   Male
Age   50
Birthplace   Forfarshire (Angus)
Parish   Monifieth
County   Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth Year (Estimated) 1791

Cant find him on Anc to see his Occp
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 14:32 BST (UK)
Sugar planter as from marriage of William and Mary, unless I am mistaken

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 14:34 BST (UK)
Did you find it on Anc?
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 14:57 BST (UK)
No 5
Found image;
William, full age, Engineer, bachelor, Father James Adamson Laird, Shipwright (deceased)
Mary, full age, Spinster, Father Alexander Rae, Sugar Planter (deceased)
Both living at 56 Market St
Witnesses hard to make out.

LM
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 27 June 18 15:43 BST (UK)
BUT, OP is looking for death of Mary.  FreeBMD has it in March quarter 1848, but GRO don't have the entry.
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 27 June 18 15:55 BST (UK)
True, but I said that earlier. I couldnt find it on there.

Of someone can find that Alexander that I found on F/S.Org I would like to know if he was a Sugar Planter or similar and then that might be his Daug Mary Wilson Rae in same area in 1841 Census.

Trish :) whos off to bed!
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 16:46 BST (UK)
Bumble, I said said earlier I think it is only a certificate to prove her age , strange it isn't on ONS listings

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 16:51 BST (UK)
Mary Wilson Laird
Burial at Nunhead Surrey
16/03/1848
aged 27
born 1821
residence Hatcham St  Pauls

Louisa Maud

Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 27 June 18 21:10 BST (UK)
Well found.  :)
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 27 June 18 21:18 BST (UK)
Should have   looked at family search first, would have found it by message 2, never mind, the thrill of the chase and all that!!

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 28 June 18 08:08 BST (UK)
John, have we solved your mystery now

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 28 June 18 08:19 BST (UK)
SAIRD, MARY  WILSON
Age  27
GRO Reference: 1848  M Quarter in GREENWICH UNION  Volume 05  Page 171

You can contact them and advise that a transcription error has been made.  Details are at the bottom of the results page.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 28 June 18 08:37 BST (UK)
Yes Dundee you are right
She is under Mary Wilson Laird on FREEBM'D but Saird on ONS (GRO), it is obviously an error

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 28 June 18 10:27 BST (UK)
hi all, many thanks for all replies to my post. I think I can safely say queries answered.

Thanks, John
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 28 June 18 11:28 BST (UK)
Another satisfied customer  !!!  ;)

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 29 July 18 18:19 BST (UK)
Hi, just going through all this material again. Alexander Rae does appear on the 1841 scottish census on Ancestry under the surname PEAR. I f anyone does have access to this does it record his occupation as sugar planter.
Thanks

John
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 30 July 18 12:05 BST (UK)
The Alexander Rae in Monifieth 1841 is a Hand Loom Weaver!

Annette
Title: Re: Mar Wilson Rae died 1848
Post by: softly softly on Monday 30 July 18 15:12 BST (UK)
Thanks Annette7