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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: cupcake on Thursday 28 June 18 10:15 BST (UK)
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I would like to find out where the grocer Thomas FORSYTH had his business in Lochmaben, from around 1860/75.
His two sons were also grocers.
cupcake
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Have you looked for him on the 1861 census as I can't see an obvious entry? Can you include some identifying details (ie) birth year and birthplace - sons names etc
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He's down in the Valuation Rolls for 1865, cupcake. I looked him up yesterday in relation to your other query about Lairs. From memory, I think it was early 1860s as tenant/occupier in either High Street or Castle Street and then 1864-65 as proprietor/occupier in Well street.
All this for free in SP.
Gadget
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Connected thread here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=795786.msg6526795#msg6526795
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Here we are
1861 T/O House Shop and Garden, High St
1862 -do-
1863 -do- and Offices
1864 P/O House Shop and Garden, Castle St
1865 P/O House Shop Garden Well St
Gadget
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If you select 1875, you'll find him as P/O or P in Well St 1866-70 and in 1868, also T/O in Bruce St.
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Connected thread here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=795786.msg6526795#msg6526795
I put this on another thread as it was about Lochmaben. Sorry.
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Hope you find my above finds in the VRs useful, cupcake :)
Gadget
(I saw it as a different topic with the other thread looking for lairs in Caerlaverock)
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He's down in the Valuation Rolls for 1865, cupcake. I looked him up yesterday in relation to your other query about Lairs. From memory, I think it was early 1860s as tenant/occupier in either High Street or Castle Street and then 1864-65 as proprietor/occupier in Well street.
All this for free in SP.
Gadget
Thank you for that Gadget. I do apologize for another thread but the other one was headed Caerlaverock and thought it better to start this one for Lochmaben.
James and his two sons died in Well Street (infomation from their death certificates) His wife Agnes died in Castle Street.
Will look on Scotlands People :).
cupcake
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Here we are
1861 T/O House Shop and Garden, High St
1862 -do-
1863 -do- and Offices
1864 P/O House Shop and Garden, Castle St
1865 P/O House Shop Garden Well St
Gadget
That's excellent Gadget :D. Starting to get a better picture of the family.
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Nothing on the 1855 or 1885 VRs for Thomas. When did he die? Maybe check for sons in 1885.
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Hope you find my above finds in the VRs useful, cupcake :)
Gadget
(I saw it as a different topic with the other thread looking for lairs in Caerlaverock)
I am sure your VR's will be most useful.
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Nothing on the 1855 or 1885 VRs for Thomas. When did he die? Maybe check for sons in 1885.
They were all deceased by 1878
Thomas died at Well Street 14 December 1871.
his son James FORSYTH died 21 August 1869 (Well Street)
his son Adam Forsyth died 6 June 1875 (Well Street)
Agnes FORSYTH Thomas's wife died Castle Street March 1878
cupcake
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Mrs Forsyth down as T/O for a Dwelling House in Well Street in 1876.
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James - T/O House, Shop etc, Well St, 1868. In 1868 it also includes a garden.
Mrs Forsyth P/O Dwelling House, Shop and Garden, Well street 1872- 1875. Also a P of Dwelling House in Well Street 1872-75. Wonder if there were 2 houses.
Add - Mrs Forsyth becomes Agnes Forsyth in the 1875 VR :D
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James - T/O House, Shop etc, Well St, 1868. In 1868 it also includes a garden.
Mrs Forsyth P/O Dwelling House, Shop and Garden, Well street 1872- 1875. Also a P of Dwelling House in Well Street 1872-75. Wonder if there were 2 houses.
Add - Mrs Forsyth becomes Agnes Forsyth in the 1875 VR :D
You are good Gadget. I am just on the VR's very interesting. Does look as if Thomas stopped being Proprietor in 1865.
James died 1869 a year after he was T/O
There may well have been two houses.
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Not sure if you've seen this in the Wills section of SP:
Inventory only - 9 April 1878
Agnes Forsyth or Smith, Lochmaben. Died 25 March 1878, testate.
Gadget
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Not sure if you've seen this in the Wills section of SP:
Inventory only - 9 April 1878
Agnes Forsyth or Smith, Lochmaben. Died 25 March 1878, testate.
Gadget
Yes I have .
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Have been searching for Adam FORSYTH son of Thomas FORSYTH (Grocer) and Agnes FORSYTH (Smith).
Adam died Lochmaben 9 June 1875 aged 22 yrs. (born abt. 1853). Can't make out his cause of death - but had had it for several years. Perhaps someone can make out what he had for several years.
Can't find him on the 1861.1871 census.
cupcake
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Could you put up a snip of the cause of death?
Gadget
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On the 1871, Adam is with his parents in Well Street
Adam Forsyth, son, 18, Assistant Grocer, b. Torthowald.
Gadget
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In 1861, he's with parents at Walton Farm House, Kirkpatrick Durham, KKD
Gadget
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The Tr looks a bit like an Sh but think it's the way the T was written.
Added - it does look like Strumour ???
See next post
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Nearest I can get is Struma - an enlarged thyroid - goitre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goitre
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This is what I get for cause:
General Struma
Many Years
Tuberculosis of
left Lung princi-
-pally - (3) y ?? + 7 days
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On the 1871, Adam is with his parents in Well Street
Adam Forsyth, son, 18, Assistant Grocer, b. Torthowald.
Gadget
I certainly am not looking in the right places. Did.n't know Adam was born in Torthorwald.
Thank you.
cupcake
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This is what I get for cause:
General Struma
Many Years
Tuberculosis of
left Lung princi-
-pally - (3) y ?? + 7 days
Well done Gadget :D It's a new one on me. Must have been awful.
cupcake
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Nearest I can get is Struma - an enlarged thyroid - goitre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goitre
Looked at this - not nice at all.
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In 1861, he's with parents at Walton Farm House, Kirkpatrick Durham, KKD
Gadget
I was looking on FreeCEN