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Title: Searching for first marriage
Post by: RebeccaNZ on Friday 29 June 18 05:11 BST (UK)
On 5th April 1846, at St Mary Haggerston, Hackney. Henry Butt married a widow named Sarah Hewiit. Her father was William Harris so that is her maiden name I assume  :)

I'm having trouble tracking her first marriage and her in the 1841 census. Henry and Sarah lived in Shoreditch in 1851 and 1861, they had three children,  Henry, John and Charles.

The records are probably really obvious but I'm just not finding them for some reason. From the census it says that she was born abt 1816 so I'm guessing around 1840?? For a first short lived marriage.
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 29 June 18 05:49 BST (UK)
Looking at the 1851 census Sarah had  two children from her previous marriage living with her -Elizabeth Jane 13  Islington and George 9 Kensington  so maybe her marriage  was pre 1837

Not  seeing the family in 1841 at the moment  :-\

Kay
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 June 18 07:55 BST (UK)
These birth registrations look like the two Butt children but wrong mmn.

BUTT, HENRY       mmn PERRYMAN     
1847  Sept Quarter in THE ISLINGTON DISTRICT  Volume 03  Page 218

BUTT, CHARLES  RICHARD     mmn PERRYMAN     
1849  Dec Quarter in THE ISLINGTON DISTRICT  Volume 03  Page 254   

This looks like George Hewitts birth  This would give details of his father
HEWETT, GEORGE       mmn PERRYMAN     
1841  Sept Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 03  Page 263   

Just adding last child
BUTT, JOHN  ROBERT     mmn PERRYMAN     
1852  March Quarter in THE ISLINGTON DISTRICT  Volume 01B  Page 203   
 
 
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 June 18 08:58 BST (UK)
Possible baptism for Sarah  :-\
Sarah Perryman
birth 7 Nov 1816
bapt 3 Dec 1816
St James, Westminster
Parents
William & Elizabeth
abode Swallow Street
Fathers occ Shoemaker
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 29 June 18 09:09 BST (UK)
Marriage found
St Luke Finsbury
16/12/1867
Elizabeth Jane Perryman Hewitt father John Smith Hewitt
to
Robert Gough

Is this a coincidence?

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 June 18 09:13 BST (UK)
That looks good LM  :)   

I am surprised that she did not add Butt to the collection of surnames  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: avm228 on Friday 29 June 18 09:15 BST (UK)
There is a John Smith Hewett death Mar qtr 1839 Amersham - but wouldn’t have been around to father George.

A John Smith Hewett married in Marylebone in 1850 aged 20 - father John Smith Hewett, carman, decd.

“Carman” is the same paternal occupation as was on Elizabeth Jane Perryman Hewett’s marriage.
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 June 18 09:18 BST (UK)
I wondered about this death in the same reg dist as George was born
HEWETT, JOHN       age 42     
1842  Sept Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 03  Page 217

Probably best to get Georges birth certificate
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: avm228 on Friday 29 June 18 09:21 BST (UK)
John Smith Hewett (jnr) was bapt 5 Oct 1831 Kensington to John Smith Hewett (lab) & Sarah, of New St.
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: avm228 on Friday 29 June 18 09:24 BST (UK)
John Smith Hewett (jnr) was bapt 5 Oct 1831 Kensington to John Smith Hewett (lab) & Sarah, of New St.

They also had a son William Smith Hewett bapt 17 Nov 1833.  Parish is St Mary Abbot’s, Kensington.
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 June 18 09:27 BST (UK)
 :-\
John Smith Hewett
Baptism 19 Aug 1792
Place   -
County   London
Parents John & Jemima Hewett
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: avm228 on Friday 29 June 18 09:28 BST (UK)
John Hewett, 42, of New St Gravel Pits, buried 3 Aug 1842, St Mary Abbot’s.
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: RebeccaNZ on Friday 29 June 18 10:17 BST (UK)
Wow, thankyou everyone. That us quite a surprise. Why does it say on her marriage cert that her fathers name was William Harris  ??? So confused.

But this all makes alot of sense as to why I couldn't find anything
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 June 18 10:49 BST (UK)
Hopefully Georges birth certificate will give a bit more information on his father
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 29 June 18 11:41 BST (UK)
Perhaps there was another marriage but George's cert would be a good idea

Louisa  Maud
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: RebeccaNZ on Friday 29 June 18 21:25 BST (UK)
Perhaps there was another marriage but George's cert would be a good idea

Louisa  Maud

Thankyou, yes it would. Everything is looking like her maiden name was originally Perryman though. Very strange!
Title: Re: Searching for first marriage
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 29 June 18 21:37 BST (UK)
As Rosie said George's certificate might be a good idea, at least it will give you more information, it is near enough to the 1841 that might give you a definite address for that census, if you do purchase  the cenus let us know and we can look on 1841 for you

Happy hunting

Louisa Maud