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Title: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: stevej60 on Friday 29 June 18 21:12 BST (UK)
Evening folk's,My Gt/Gt Grandfather  William Henry Round and wife Margaret died in 1913
and 1917 respectively,they lived in Station Rd Gosforth with their son Lorenzo a music teacher
who died in 1960/61 in Berwick(but adress still Station Rd) any guess as to which burial ground
would they likely to have been buried in? They were staunch Methodist's.
Regard's Steve.
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Friday 29 June 18 21:17 BST (UK)
Evening  :)

St Nicholas church yard is just off Station Road but not sure if non-conformists would be buried there.

Gadget

Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Friday 29 June 18 22:50 BST (UK)
Here's info about St Nicholas. Note that the pointer on the map is in the wrong location (it's where a GP surgery is!). St Nicholas is to the right of the map, indicated by the building with the cross just off Station Road.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Gosforth/StNicholas


Gadget

Added - the Church opposite the pointer on Church Road is St Charles RC Church.
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: stevej60 on Saturday 30 June 18 10:23 BST (UK)
Many thank's for the info gadget.
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: 2zpool on Saturday 30 June 18 15:13 BST (UK)
Gosforth St. Nicholas is on Find-a-Grave   https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2540578/saint-nicholas-churchyard  but I don't see anyone with the surname Round.

Janis
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 30 June 18 16:43 BST (UK)
They might not have had a grave stone, so it might need contact to find out if they had a grave there. - maybe contact Church first as Gosforth was in  Northumberland until 1974.  (see below) 

I walk around it every so often as it's not far from me. A lot of overgrowth and fallen/stacked stones towards the Metro line.

Website: http://www.gosforthparishchurch.org.uk/


Gadget
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 30 June 18 17:10 BST (UK)
It might be that you'll need a look up in the Chronicle index.  River Tyne Lass has good knowledge of burials in the area. I'll PM her, linking to this thread.

Gadget
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 30 June 18 17:41 BST (UK)
My Gt/Gt Grandfather  William Henry Round and wife Margaret died in 1913
and 1917  respectively

I have William H Round 's death registered  in Q2 1914, Castle Ward, aged 67.

Margret Round is Q4 ,1917.

Gadget
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Saturday 30 June 18 19:12 BST (UK)
Thanks for pm Gadget - I have run of nightshifts coming up starting tomorrow but I can try to find burials for you Steve at the end of next week - if you would like :)
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: stevej60 on Saturday 30 June 18 22:55 BST (UK)
Again many thank's all,and thankyou RiverTyne Lass whenever you have time to check would be much
appreciated.
Regard's Steve.
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Sunday 01 July 18 10:21 BST (UK)
I will check for burials at the end of this week and hopefully if I find these I should then be able to check for possible death notices which could  provide actual dates of death.

Will be back in touch later this week. :)
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 05 July 18 12:38 BST (UK)
Hi Steve,

Today I have found your Great x 2 Grandmother at 'Gosforth Parish Church' according to death notice in the Evening Chronicle.

Unfortunately, I have run out of time as I spent quite a long time (mistakenly error on my part) looking at cemeteries on microfilm at the library. However, now I know where Margaret is, I expect her husband and son will likely be at the same place.  It may not be several weeks possibly when I can fit in an archives trip for you to find William and Lorenzo (and possible death notices) but I will do this as soon as I am next able.

This is the notice:

Evening Chronicle - December 14, 1917

'ROUND. - On December 12, aged 68, Margaret, widow of the late William Henry Round.  To be interred at Gosforth Parish Church on Saturday 15th, at 3.30 pm.'



Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 05 July 18 13:25 BST (UK)
Just to add that St Nicholas, Station Road/Church Road  is  Gosforth Parish Church.

I put up the website link in Reply #5.


Gadget
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 05 July 18 13:29 BST (UK)
Yes, I know.  I don't know why but I thought burials finished here at the Church circa 1850s and moved to the cemetery.

Oh well.
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 05 July 18 13:31 BST (UK)
I've seen much more recent ones than 1850 there when I've walked around the burial ground. It's only a few minutes from me.  Are you thinking of St Nicholas Cathedral?

Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 05 July 18 13:34 BST (UK)
Sooner than expected I have been able to find this for you Steve -

Evening Chronicle - May 20, 1914

'ROUND.- At 70, Station Road, South Gosforth, on the 18th inst., William Henry, the dearly beloved husband of Margaret Round, late of Chester-le-Street.  To be interred at Gosforth Parish Church on Thursday at 2.30.'

I will look for Lorenzo for you at some point in the next few weeks when I can fit this in.

Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 05 July 18 13:39 BST (UK)
Just saw your post Gadget.  Yes, I think I got mixed up with the Cathedral.  Never mind at least I found William and Margaret in the end.

Perhaps if you might come across their graves for Steve one day when you might be walking through there, Gadget.  I am sure you will let him know if you ever uncover a stone with an inscription.  :)
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 05 July 18 13:46 BST (UK)
Out of interest,  a bit of Gosforth History:

 I see that a Rev Robert Henry Brandling was both vicar and owner of the South Gosforth coal mine and built the wagon way from here to the Tyne.

The Brandlings were a prominent  family from 1500s onwards:

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They were a wealthy family of merchants and land and coal owners whose family had risen to power in Northumbria during the Middle Ages. Sir John Brandling served as Sheriff of Newcastle  in 1505 and as Mayor in from 1509 to 1520. Subsequent Brandlings trod much the same career path gradually gaining more and more land – and ever greater interest in the lucrative business of coal mining. It was the Brandlings who constructed most of the wagon ways linking the pits around Newcastle and enabling coal to be taken down to the docks on the river.

 Charles Brandling was High Sheriff of Northumberland in 1781 and also  Member of Parliament for Newcastle. built a new mansion at Gosforth House and this house became the family seat . His son Charles John Brandling  (the one who paid Dobson for this church) was also  was MP  for Newcastle. He it was who paid George Stephenson for the invention of the Geordie lamp – the miner’s safety lamp In the end over speculation – does it ring any modern bells? – caused him to sell off most of the mining interest and to move away from Gosforth which, thanks not only to mining but also to farming and by now a growing interest in commerce and the professions  continued to expand.
 

Also, of course, the Brandling village area in Jesmond is named for them.


Gadget

RTL - if Steve could find the lair/plot numbers, I could certainly check them out.
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 05 July 18 13:51 BST (UK)
This is an interesting piece on the Gosforth history Gadget. :)  No doubt the Brandling pub on the High Street is named after them too - at least so I presume?

Steve perhaps if you email someone at the Church they might be able to provide you with a grave site for your ancestors and let you know if there might be grave stone(s) on their plots.
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 05 July 18 13:58 BST (UK)
The Brandling Arms?  I would think so. There was also Job Bulman who built many of the houses around the High Street area -  the Wetherspoons pub just by the park/cricket ground (South-North)  is named for him!

Gadget

PS - Steve - all the contact info is on the bottom of the home page of the website.
http://www.gosforthparishchurch.org.uk/
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: stevej60 on Thursday 05 July 18 23:45 BST (UK)
Many many thank's RTL and Gadgett for all the information,I'll try the church to see if they have
any detail's and let you know,we still ponder where Lorenzo Dennison(to give him his full name)
got his name William was a butcher's son from Dudley and Margaret a miners daughter from
Teesdale,that said their first child who sadly died was christened Lorenza Ammia Round.
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Thursday 12 July 18 11:07 BST (UK)
Hi Steve,

I have checked the St Nicholas, Gosforth burials over 1960 and 1961 for Lorenzo and unfortunately he is definitely not buried there.  I wonder if he might be buried where he died in Berwick? 
Title: Re: William and Margaret Round Gosforth.
Post by: stevej60 on Thursday 12 July 18 12:03 BST (UK)
Hi RTL,many thank's for checking,it is possible he is buried in Berwick,he's not in Chester le street
where the his brother (my Gt Grandfather) is buried.