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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: stevemiller on Tuesday 03 July 18 17:37 BST (UK)
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This is an irritating one, which I periodically have a poke at, without success.
Can anyone find ANY sighting of Thomas and Elizabeth Major, apart from 1851 census?
In 1851, this family is at Cross Keys Yard, Queen Street, Oxford (HO107/1728/476/2)
Thomas Griffin Head 60 Ag Lab born Newbury BRK
Hannah wife 43 Marsh Gibbon BKM
William son 18 Ag Lab Newbury BRK
Eliza daur 21 Newbury BRK
Hannah daur 16 Newbury BRK
Jane daur 13 scholar Newbury BRK
Thomas Major son in law 37 dealer in marine stores Folkestone KEN
Elizabeth Major daur 26 wife of do, lacemaker Marsh Gibbon BKM
John Deacon visitor unm 22 dealer in marine stores East Ilsley BRK
Elizabeth was the (illegitimate?) daughter of Hannah Burgess and was baptised at Marsh Gibbon on 24 October 1824. Hannah married Thomas Griffin at Marsh Gibbon on 21 May 1827.
I have the Griffins in 1841 in Abingdon (apart from Elizabeth).
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Have you considered in 1841:
HO 107 / 489 / 12 / 11 / 14
Blackheath Hill, St Alphege, Greenwich, Kent
in the household of Wm Knock, victualler
Thoms Major, 25, M.S. Y ?
edit probably not him after all, he is still likely in Greenwich in 1851 >:(
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1841 for Thomas, with a potential link to his future wife?
Crockwell, Bicester
Susanna Jagger 65
John Munday 40
Thomas Jones 30
Thomas Major 25 - sailor, not b in county
Caroline Stueart 40
Mary Stewart 25
Hannah Griffin 20 <<< lacemaker, not b in county
John Stewart 8
Henry Golding 70
Thomas Honnor 65
Mary Carey 80
Hannah Manders 60
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Have you found a marriage for them?
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Yes JenB, I’ve seen the Thomas Major in 1841 Greenwich before. He married Eliza Bilby – also in that Knock household – at Deptford on 24 October 1841. As you say they stayed in the area and had children. He was born at Deptford and she at Lee.
Mabel, thanks for finding the entry at Bicester. What’s a sailor doing in deepest Oxfordshire? Of course, there is little link between a sailor and a marine stores dealer, the latter being what we would probably call a scrap metal merchant today. I can’t see where this Hannah Griffin fits in – her birth predates Thomas Griffin and Hannah Burgess’s marriage by some way. She could be a relation of his – or perhaps it’s a coincidence? But one to keep in the file.
I’ve found nothing for Thomas and Elizabeth Major, apart from 1851 and her baptism, so no marriage yet.
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Mabel, thanks for finding the entry at Bicester. What’s a sailor doing in deepest Oxfordshire? Of course, there is little link between a sailor and a marine stores dealer, the latter being what we would probably call a scrap metal merchant today.
Oxford is within 60 miles of the sea. All the people I'm about to mention were from Oxfordshire.
My great-uncle had a career in the Royal Navy but was on leave in Oxford in 1911.
His brother, my maternal grandfather, joined later but was discharged on medical grounds.
My mother wanted to join the Wrens but her dad wouldn't let her.
My father went to volunteer for the Royal Navy at the start of WWII but they didn't need carpenters. (He served in the Royal Corps of Signals instead.)
A maternal (non-naval) 2xgtgrandfather was a marine store dealer in Oxford. Here's a definition from an earlier thread on the subject: