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Title: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Lazarus on Wednesday 04 July 18 01:58 BST (UK)
Help appreciated in accounting for this person believed to be daughter of Jane (Guy) Minear , listed 1841 Census aged 1 living East Turnpike.
1851 Census transcribed as Mary Ann Mincer aged 11.
1861 Census as
 Mary Ann Minear visitor aged 21 living with family of William (? a brother) Minear.
What became of Mary Ann ?Did she marry ?
Apparently her father could not have been William Minear as he had died 1832 , makes her parentage dubious.

With thanks.
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Johnf04 on Wednesday 04 July 18 04:48 BST (UK)
There is a Mary A MINEAR in 1891 in St Austell, Cornwall, Born Roche, Cornwall, single, age 51.
DISTRICT:   St Austell
ED, INSTITUTION OR VESSEL:   13
PIECE:   1822
FOLIO:   160

A Mary MINEAR marries either Willie PRYNN or James KNIGHT at St Austell in Dec quarter 1898
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Lazarus on Thursday 05 July 18 06:16 BST (UK)
Thank you John.
Sorry for the delay in responding.
Your suggestions look promising as I think Roche not far from St Austell.
I don't suppose you can see her 1871 and 1881 as might give further confirmation.
Now looking for burial record.

Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Johnf04 on Thursday 05 July 18 07:43 BST (UK)
There is this item on Freecen for 1871

1871 Census
8 Records found
    
        
Piece: RG10/2262 Place: St Austell -Cornwall Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: St. Austell Ecclesiastical Parish: Treverbyn
Folio: 34 Page: 3 Schedule: 11
Address: Ruddle Moor

        Surname       First name(s)       Rel       Status       Sex       Age       Occupation       Where Born       Remarks   
        MINEAR       William       Head       M       M       45       Clay Labourer        Cornwall - St Stephens           
        MINEAR       Catherine       Wife       M       F       40               Cornwall - Luxulian           
        MINEAR       Catherine       Dau       U       F       24       Clay Labourer        Cornwall - Roche           
        MINEAR       Grace       Dau       U       F       20       Clay Labourer        Cornwall - Roche           
        MINEAR       John       Son       -       M       7       Scholar        Cornwall - St Austell           
        MINEAR       Clara       Dau       -       F       4               Cornwall - St Austell           
        MINEAR       Mathew       Father       W       M       71       Formerly Clay Labourer        Cornwall - St Dennis           
        MINEAR       Mary A       Sister       U       F       31       Clay Labourer        Cornwall - St Dennis       
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Johnf04 on Thursday 05 July 18 07:50 BST (UK)
There is also a listing on Ancestry for 1881 - in St Austell, Cornwall
ED, institution, or vessel:   15
Piece:   2302
Folio:   87
Page Number:   20


Name                  Age
Mary Ann Minnear   48


Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Johnf04 on Thursday 05 July 18 08:02 BST (UK)
It looks like Mary Ann married James KNIGHT - Ancestry has is an entry for Mary Ann KNIGHT, widow, aged 61, laundress, born St Columb Minor, in the 1901 census.

Ecclesiastical parish:   Mawgan in Pydar
County/Island:   Cornwall
Country:   England

Registration district:   St Columb
Sub-registration district:   St Columb
ED, institution, or vessel:   1
Neighbors:   View others on page
Piece:   2206
Folio:   7
Page Number:   6
Household schedule number:   37
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Lazarus on Thursday 05 July 18 08:32 BST (UK)
Thank you again John.
I am checking these out.
Differing birth locations might be an issue but age fits.
I should be able to match up with other family members.
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 05 July 18 15:09 BST (UK)
1851 she is down as Janes Daug as you know;

Anc has this with no date;
Name:   Jane Minear
Gender:   Female
Child:   Mary Minear

No Birth Reg GRO that I can find

I think the 1871 Census is not your Mary Ann. Looks like her age is out there and born c 1834 to Matthew/Elizabeth. They have a Son William.

1861 she is with her half brother Wiliam and Family.

This may be a red herring but a Mary Ann GUY, Spinster*, married William Parker 1862 (CornwallOPC)
She names her Father as Edward COLLECOAT a Fisherman
William is a Widower/occp Mariner
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Brentor boy on Thursday 05 July 18 17:52 BST (UK)
From Cornwall OPC. Baptism 6 April 1834 St Austell. Mary, daughter of Jane Minear, victualler. Base child. No obvious record of burial.

Not an answer - just another question
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Lazarus on Thursday 05 July 18 23:30 BST (UK)
Thank you Brentor Boy , Trish and John.
I can confirm Mary was base child of Jane ( Guy) Minear bpt 6 Apr 1834 St Austell.I wondered if "victualler" was reference to mother or unknown fathers occupation. The Minears did have pub connections.

On reflection I agree 1871 not her.

Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Brentor boy on Friday 06 July 18 07:25 BST (UK)
In 1851 Jane's occupation shown as "housework, formerly inn keeper"
Title: Re: Marian Minear ( also spelling variations)bC1840 St Austell
Post by: Lazarus on Friday 06 July 18 07:55 BST (UK)
By way of clarification , here is Mary Ann Minear in 1861:

Piece: RG9/1549 Place: St Austell -Cornwall Enumeration District: 18D
Civil Parish: St. Austell Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 10 Page: 13 Schedule: 87
Address: Priory Row

 
 


 

 

Surname

 

First name(s)

 

Rel

 

Status

 

Sex

 

Age

 

Occupation

 

Where Born

 

Remarks

 

    MINEAR   William   Head   M   M   36   Journeyman Tailor    Cornwall - St Austell       
    MINEAR   Rebecca (Hore)   Wife   M   F   27   Tailor's Wife    Cornwall - St Austell       
    MINEAR   Elizabeth Jane Hore   Dau   U   F   6   Scholar    Cornwall - St Austell       
    MINEAR   William Edw   Son   U   M   4   Scholar    Cornwall - St Austell       
    MINEAR   Ellen   Dau   U   F   2   Scholar    Cornwall - St Austell       
    MINEAR   Catherine   Dau   U   F   1       Cornwall - St Austell       
    MINEAR   Ann   Visitr   W   F   24   Iron Monger's Widow    Cornwall - St Agnes       
 Page: 10/14   MINEAR   Annie   Visitr   U   F   1       Cornwall - St Agnes       
    MINEAR   Mary Ann   Sister   U   F   21       Cornwall - St Austell       
 
I think this means she was a sister of William John  Minear.
The Mary Minear bpt 6 Apr 1834 ( base child of Jane )was apparently a sister ( she married William Henry Harry April 1853 St Austell ).Two different people so far as I can see.
Still no bpt found for Mary bC1840. Transcribed as "Mincer" 1841 and 1851
Sorry if still causing confusion.