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The above were the son and daughter of Francis Eugene Senior Williams 1867-1912 and Emily Louisa nee Tibball 1864-1946; they were married c 1885-can't find marriage record?
At 1910, US Census, Emily said that she'd had 9 children and 6 were living; I've found 7; George was on 1905 census but Louise was not but I can't find death records for them?
Cr
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Could this be George's death record from 1946? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W28-WZL
This looks like the birth record for the same guy. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WQ1-VPB
George's WWI draft registration - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXY8-VH4
This looks like George in the 1940 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQR8-5WG Note that he was asked the supplemental questions at the bottom.
From the draft registration card & 1940 census supplemental questions, it looks like he was in the Navy for 4 years.
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George's obituary says he was survived by wife, 2 sons, his mother, 3 brothers, one sister, and 3 grandchildren. https://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52883560/?terms=george%2Bwilliams
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1910 Census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M537-775
I think the transcriber couldn't make out the last name in the 1900 census and just guessed. Louise E. is listed as having 7 children, 5 still alive.
1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSFX-VPT
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they were married c 1885-can't find marriage record?
They were married 21 Sept. 1885
Last Name Given Name Month/Day/Year CtfNum County
Williams Frank Sep 21 1885 2873 Kings
Last Name Given Name Month/Day/Year CtfNum County
Fibball E Louisa Sep 21 1885 2873 Kings
http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/records-search/grooms.php
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Thank you very much RJ and shellyesq that info answers some questions and raises more. I believe from George's obit that his brother Edward D survived him beyond 1946; he was b 13 Aug 1901-is there any info on him? The sister who survived was Adelaide who passed away in 2000.
So presumably Louisa passed away before 1946?
Cr
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Could this be Louise Williams - 23 January 1947
Burial Evergreen Cemetery - Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/115101268
Sandra
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Harry H Williams - 20 January 1897 (corrected John) passed away 10 October 1918 - Pneumonia Lobar
Address at the time was 4905 3 rd Ave Brooklyn. Inducted Brooklyn 3 September 1918
Source - New York, Abstracts of World War I Military Service, 1917-1919 for Harry Williams
Sandra
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Do you think Harry's dob is wrong, only on the censuses his birth is 1897 not 1887? Also Louise could be a likely candidate but I'd thought that she passed before 1905?
Cr
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1897 is correct - my typo :-\
There is a Patricia Grace Ulrich also buried at Evergreen Cemetery - April 1933 - that would be the daughter of Adelaide and Otto showing on the 1930 census -
E 40 th Street Brooklyn, Kings, New York - 1930
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4V8-4BC
FIND A GRAVE
The Evergreens Cemetery Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142933224
Sandra
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Do you think Harry's dob is wrong, only on the censuses his birth is 1897 not 1887? Also Louise could be a likely candidate but I'd thought that she passed before 1905?
Cr
1910 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M537-775
1920 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJRK-2FM
1930 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4V8-4BZ
1940 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQRB-GC4
Sandra
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Robert Ulrich - son of Adelaide and Otto Ulrich - born 15 June 1934 passed away 4 July 2002
Last Residence 34691 Holiday, Pasco, Florida.
At the time of his passing Mr Ulrich was a resident of Pasco County, Florida.
FIND A GRAVE
15 June 1934 - 4 July 2002
Burial - Meadowlawn Memorial Gardens New Port Richey, Pasco County, Florida.
PLOT Devotion
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/54091227
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Adelaide Ulrich -
Meadowlawn Memorial Gardens New Port Richey, Pasco County, Florida.
PLOT Garden of Valor and COM II Bank 9 73 K
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/41034610/adelaide-s.-ulrich
husband - Otto Charles Ulrich - 19 January 1900 - 26 July 1978
Meadowlawn Memorial Gardens New Port Richey, Pasco County, Florida.
Plot Com II Bank 9 72 K
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77193890/otto-charles-ulrich
Sandra
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U.S., Applications for Seaman's Protection Certificates - Cert - 29622 - 1916-1940 (18 December 1919) for Walter Thos Williams - 2 January 1895 - lives at 1827 Nostrand Avenue Brooklyn.
Ord Naval discharge - 2805 NRF - ships cook from Naval prison Navy Yard Portsmouth New Hampshire.
Physical marks - Tatoo - 1 sailor and tombstone. Scars - two on l face
Last vessel was the Manchuria - Next vessel - SS West Caruth.
Shows photograph of him.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mbi/
1920 census Nostrand Avenue
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJRK-2FM
Sandra
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1940 census - Milford, Pike, Pennsylvania.
Walter T Williams 45 Inferred Residence in 1935 - Brooklyn, New York
Anna Mary Williams 23
Son "T B"Williams 5
Daughter "L G" Williams 3
son "H A"Williams 1
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ6W-7Y3
Walter T Williams - 2 January 1894 - 23 January 1952 - Certificate Number 1761
Sandra
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This looks like the death of the younger Louise in 1900, a few months after the census -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WF7-M2Z
Could this be Louise Williams - 23 January 1947
Burial Evergreen Cemetery - Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/115101268
Sandra
The date of death isn't exactly the same (maybe the cemetery's date was the burial date?), but this may be the death of that Louise - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W26-FMB - who looks like she was not the one we're looking for.
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Louise E (the mother)
Death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W2Z-SFV
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/image/53660443/?terms=%22+stevens+louise%22
Find A Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/58036534
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Last Name-WILLIAMS
First Name- LOUISE
Burial Date-1900-08-28
Lot-26599
Section-203
Grave: 1
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Last Name-STEVENS
First Name-LOUISE EMILY
Burial Date-1946-05-03
Lot-26599
Section-203
Grave: 3
https://www.green-wood.com/burial_search/
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I believe from George's obit that his brother Edward D survived him beyond 1946; he was b 13 Aug 1901-is there any info on him?
According to Walter's obit in 1952, his brothers Frank & Edward were still alive as well as sister Adelaide.
https://www.newspapers.com/image/52905662/?terms=%22williams+Walter%22
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Are you sure about the DOB (13 Aug 1901) for Edward? There is an Edward Williams with that DOB born in Brooklyn, but with different parents?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WHW-YPD
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Have we covered Frank Williams - haven't checked. Same grave ref as reply 17 gave
FIND A GRAVE
Green-Wood Cemetery Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
Plot Lot 26599, Section 203
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/57233021/frank-williams
source - https://www.green-wood.com/burial_results/index.php?action=R&spage=10
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE shows...................
Phoebe Ann Bogart Williams - passed February 1913 - (Listed as mother of Frank Williams, Charles Williams and Anna Louisa Williams Holman
Phoebe - burial - Green-Wood Cemetery Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
Plot Lot 17263, Section 15
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/57234637/phoebe-ann-williams
Charles Williams - 8 January 1853 - 7 March 1914 Richmond County (Staten Island), New York.
Burial - Moravian Cemetery New Dorp, Richmond County (Staten Island), New York.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174082816/charles-williams
Anna Louisa Williams Holman - 1857 New Jersey passed away 31 May 1929 (aged 71–72 years)
Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
Mother of Adrian Stivers Holman and William Henry Stivers Holman
burial - Green-Wood Cemetery
Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York, USA Plot Lot 27373 Section 129
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174008079/anna-louisa-holman
second husband Emmanuel Syvers - 1854 - 5 March 1935 Kings County brooklyn.
Green-Wood Cemetery Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
Plot Lot 25529 Section 146
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174007910
son Adrian Styvers Holman 30 January 1878 - April 1956
Green-Wood Cemetery Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
Plot Lot 27373 Section 129
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174008808/adrian-stivers-holman
son William Henry Styvers Holman 24 june 1880 Brooklyn - 25 November 1938 Richmond County (Staten Island), New York.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174024336/william-henry_stivers-holman
Sandra
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This looks like Anna nee Williams Styvers - 1880 census Brooklyn Kings New York.
Gideon V Styvers Jr and Anna married 23 April 1875 Kings New York.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24Z2-DP2
Gideon V. Styvers 62. Carpenter.
Elisabeth Styvers 52. Wife
Gideon V. Styvers 33. Son.
Isaac Styvers 3 Grandson.
Adeline T. Styvers 27. Daughter.
John W. Styvers 24. Son.
Anna Styvers 22 Daughter-in-law.
Adrian Styvers 2 Grandson.
Margaret Styvers 27. Daughter-in-law.
Elisabeth Styvers 4. grand-daughter.
Isaac Styvers 3. Grandson.
Joseph Styvers 7 months. Grandson.
Maggie Styvers 1. Grand-daughter.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZD7-69N
Shows as a Holman on 1892 census
FIND A GRAVE
Shows a Gidgeon Vanwinkle Styvers - 1889 -
burial - Green-Wood Cemetery Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York.
Plot Lot 5499, Section 2
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/58038552
Sandra
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If Phoebe reverted to maiden name ???
Brooklyn New York City Directory 1891 - shows a Phoebe A Bogart wid h 563 Warren ???
Sandra
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Brother Charles S Williams 1880 census 18 St Brooklyn Kings New York.
Charles married Virginia Elizabeth Brower - 30 June 1870 - Manhattan New York.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24MF-NZ6
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24MF-NZ8
Charls S. Williams 28 born NY. Father born Scotland and Mother NY. R R Emp.
Virginia Williams 28 born Virginia
Elisa I. Williams 7 born NY
Charles Williams 5 born NY
Chalott Williams 1 born NY
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ82-W5M
Sandra
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Phoebe died 10 Feb. 1913
Last Name-Williams
Given Name -Phoebe A
Age -83 y
Date -Feb 10
Year -1913
CertNbr -4665
Town/County -Manhattan
Obit: 2nd column-1/2 way down
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mbm/
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There is an 1860 census Jersey City Ward 4, Hudson, New Jersey but no Frank Williams with Charles, Phoebe, Ann Louise and George. ???
Charles S Williams 38 born Scotland
Phebe Ann Williams 32 born NY
Charles Williams 8 born NY
George Williams 4 born NY
Ann Luisa Williams 2 born NY
Mary Ann Cory 13 born NY
Sandra
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I'm aware of the Ulrich family and their details. Edward D's dob could be wrong as on censuses his b is 1902 -there are 2 birth records, one for 13 Aug 1901 NY and the other for 4 Sep 1903 Kings, but no parents given?
Do we know when Emma Louise married Stevens?
Is there a marriage record for Walter T to Anna Mary?
Thank you all for your help.
Cr
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Is there a marriage record for Walter T to Anna Mary?
Walter & Anna 1940
1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ6W-7Y3
Anna with parents 1930.
1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH4P-HTK
Pike County Dispatch
Milford, Pennsylvania
Thursday, March 12, 1936 - Page 1
HYMENEAL
Williams--- Stevens
"Walter L. Williams and Anna M. Stevens of Milford were married March 4 at Milford by Justice Evart M. Wolfe."
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Thank you RJ that seems to fit the bill.
Cr