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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ross & Cromarty => Topic started by: crozier on Saturday 07 July 18 18:20 BST (UK)
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trying to trace my family, mackenzies. address given as Ardoch,Applecross. is this a bothy, croft or village? help!
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This site re the parish of Applecross lists an Ardoch (house and grounds) https://saintsplaces.gla.ac.uk/place.php?id=457
https://maps.nls.uk/view/76343965#zoom=5&lat=5289&lon=7184&layers=BT
Kay
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These maps show two different places
This site re the parish of Applecross lists an Ardoch (house and grounds) https://saintsplaces.gla.ac.uk/place.php?id=457
This map marks the vicinity of the village of Applecross itself.
ttps://maps.nls.uk/view/76343965#zoom=5&lat=5289&lon=7184&layers=BT
is at Kishorn, on the other side of the Bealach na Ba.
The description in the saints places web site makes it fairly clear that Ardoch is east of the River Kishorn, in the part of the parish which was transferred to the parish of Lochcarron during the reforms of 1890-ish. So it will be the one in the second map http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.3975&lon=-5.5953&layers=6&b=1
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It may not seem of relevance when people (in general) are looking for places but forenames & dates can help significantly too if known.
Annie
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As mentioned in my last post, forenames/dates, from the Valuation Rolls this is the earliest connection I found on the VRs (Valuation Rolls) on SP (scotlandspeople) although I don't know what era you're looking at regarding forenames?
STUART JOHN - THE RIGHT HONOURABLE SIR Proprietor
LAND ARDOCH, APPLECROSS
1874
VR011500026-
MACKENZIE MURDO Occupier
LAND ARDOCH, APPLECROSS
1874
VR011500026-
Annie
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I stand corrected, should have provided more info.
Am interested in John MacKenzie b. 1787 Ardoch
married Margaret Matheson 1779-99
then Margaret Robinson
children Ann, Simon, Mary, Catherine,Bell, Elizabeth and George 1816-1872 my direct ancestor who worked on the railways in Nantwich/Crewe. After his death some of the family returned to Edinburgh (of which I have put together a small amount of info.)
However I would appreciate any help to go further back beyond John. I thought at one time I had found his parents but got it wrong!
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There's no marriage of a John MacKenzie and a Margaret Matheson in Ross and Cromarty between 1800 and 1830 that I can see on Scotlandspeople.
Applecross parish birth records only go back to 1805.
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the marriage after 1800 would be MacKenzie/Robertson
is there any family History expert/society specialising in the area?
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Nothing on SP with these surnames anywhere in Ross and Cromarty 1800-30
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Crozier,
Do you have John & Margaret Robinson/Robertson on any census'?
Where do you 1st have their children on census'?
Where/when were each child married & does the info. for each correspond with name of father & his occ?
What was John's occ. from census' & childrens' marriages?
Do all children state they were born Ardoch, Applecross?
Did any children die in Scotland & does the info. on parentage match for each?
Annie
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Some strange dates being put forward.
Where are you getting the John MacKenzie b. 1787 Ardoch birth from?
If he was born in 1787, and his first wife died in 1799, which is 11 or 12 years later, depending on dates, he must have been married very young!
Also mixture of surnames is slightly confusing.
Malky
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sorry for delay in reply, I've been in hospital...
Margaret Robertson b. Ardoch 1787 married John MacKenzie, also b. Ardoch 1787
Their son George, born Ardoch 1816, died Nantwich Cheshire 1872, a railway man, was my 2nd g.grandfather. They had several other children, dates matching to census info.
I'd love to more about John and Margaret's parents, and anything about Ardoch itself C