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Walter Collins is found on the Colonial Databse Tasmania
Marriage/Relationship:
1872 - HOBART, Tasmania ( BIDDULPH, REBECCA )
FAMILY INFORMATION
Children:
65389
COLLINS ROBERT BIDDULPH
1872
65388
COLLINS THOMAS HEDLEY
1875
Walters death is found in 1922 Brunswick.
Trying to find out how he arrived in Tasmania and from where?
Thanks
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No birth year included. How old was he when he died?
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Hi Freya,
From the divorce record I can see that he was married in Gateshead-on-Tyne, Durham, ENGLAND and that his first child was born in Manchester, ENGLAND.
Hope this helps.
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Hi Freya,
This obit says he was born in Birkenhead, Lancashire and arrived when he was 2 years old http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165969653
Ros
Adding : some other obits http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4683870
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165980528
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165977565
I’m guessing this is a different man ....? Yes not the same man as his death registered in Geelong and had been a long-time resident of Geelong
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Hi Freya,
This obit says he was born in Birkenhead, Lancashire and arrived when he was 2 years old http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165969653
Ros
Adding : some other obits http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4683870
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165980528
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165977565
I’m guessing this is a different man ....? Yes not the same man as his death registered in Geelong and had been a long-time resident of Geelong
Walter Collins is found on the Colonial Databse Tasmania
Marriage/Relationship:
1872 - HOBART, Tasmania ( BIDDULPH, REBECCA )
FAMILY INFORMATION
Children:
65389
COLLINS ROBERT BIDDULPH
1872
65388
COLLINS THOMAS HEDLEY
1875
Walters death is found in 1922 Brunswick.
Trying to find out how he arrived in Tasmania and from where?
Thanks
:)
Here is the link for the Colonial Database of Tasmania: http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8
May I mention that the Colonial Database of Tasmania includes submitted information rather than just official records. Except where indicated by '(AO)', the family links in the database have not been made by the TAHO and we are not therefore able to guarantee their accuracy. Links made by the National Heritage Foundation have been built up from a diverse range of sources which have not themselves been checked. The database is no longer being updated and TAHO cannot accept any further corrections.
Here is image : https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-10-p408j2k
Here is the link for the Vic BDM:
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj
May I mention that Vic BDM documents are considered to be among the most informative around the world for family history purposes. The d.c. may well include a response to the question "how long in the colonies/states" as well as info re his birth, parentage, marriages, children etc
See this informative thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html
Here is the link for Trove, which includes free access and excellent search engine to the digitisation project for newspapers, and much more.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/
Here is the link to RChat's Australian Resources Board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
JM
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http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriage Sep 1867
COLLINS Walter Gateshead 10a/753
BIDDULPH Rebecca Gateshead 10a/753
Births Mar 1869
COLLINS Walter James Manchester 8d/150
Births in Tasmania from my resource
COLLINS Robert Biddulph
Father Walter Mother Rebecca BIDDULPH
22 Nov 1872
At Hobart Reg#2921
COLLINS Thomas Hedley
Father Walter Mother Rebecca BIDDULPH
20 Aug 1875
At Hobart Reg#1368
Divorce
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mch/
Cando
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Walter Collins is found on the Colonial Databse Tasmania
Marriage/Relationship:
1872 - HOBART, Tasmania ( BIDDULPH, REBECCA )
FAMILY INFORMATION
Children:
65389
COLLINS ROBERT BIDDULPH
1872
65388
COLLINS THOMAS HEDLEY
1875
Walters death is found in 1922 Brunswick.
Trying to find out how he arrived in Tasmania and from where?
Thanks
Where did you source Walter's place and year of death?
There is no death for a Walter COLLINS in 1922 in Brunswick, Vic. The 1922 death is for a Walter COLLINS who was married to a Margaret MURRAY and according to his obituary, lived in the Geelong district for most of his life. This Walter is interred in the adjacent grave to his wife at the Geelong Cemetery. This is possibly his arrival in Geelong.
COLLINS Walter
Date: 17 Jun 1854
Place: Geelong
Comment Age 2
Geelong & District Assisted Immigrants
Ship CONWAY
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Did your Walter COLLINS in Tasmania spend time in gaol?
Seven days in gaol for refusing to pay a fine for assault. Surely it's your man as Nathan HETHERINGTON was present.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article8953995
Births in Victoria
HETHERINGTON George William
Father Nathan Mother Rebecca BIDDULPH
At Fitzroy 1878 Reg#8252
HETHERINGTON Ethel Clara
Father Nathaniel George Mother Rebecca BEDDULPH
At Melbourne 1880 Reg#17366
Death
HETHERINGTON Ethel Clair
Father George Mother Rebecca BIDDULPH
At Melbourne West 7 Months 1881 Reg#5327
Marriage with mistranscribed surname
COLLIER Rebecca Born Shropshire
HETHERINGTON George Born Wakefield
1884 Reg#3345
Cando
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Cando,
Yes that'll be he!
Thanks for sorting out the right Walter Collins for me, Walters family also later on lived
in Geelong so hence confusion on my behalf... Now not sure where he died, but his son did spend sometime in QLD so may look there ;D
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BDM VIC death
1889 / 1913 COLLINS Guinevere Eulalia parents Walt / Rebecca (BIDDULPH)
age 7 died Fitz N
Victoria Police Gazette 23 Apr 1878 (extract from Tasmania Crime Report)
https://www.ancestry.com.au/interactive/60885/44406_b220356-00147?
….Walter COLLINS "Lady Belmore...…..escaped from gang Queens Domain...…..FC..(Free to the colony)
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Possibly the Brunswick reference was sourced from this record. I note that Walter's occupation on the birth certificates for his two children in Tasmania was house painter and painter.
COLLINS Walter
Unemployed
Date 1892
Place East Brunswick, Victoria
Status Married
Occupation Painter.
Source: Index to the Register of unemployed tradesmen and labourers.
Public Record Office Victoria: VPRS 1053/P0 Units 1-3. Unit 2 Pge 121
Comment No of children 2
Cando
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Is this the same man as this one arrived in 1877 on the LADY BELMORE
COLLINS Walter
Convict transportation
Arrived 1 Jan 1877 on Lady Belmore
Source: Tasmanian convicts [index]
Conduct Record: CON37/10 p5974.
Comment: Free to colony. Tried Launceston Apr 1877
Walter and Rebecca were in Tasmania by 1872.
We are still trying to find when Walter and his wife Rebecca arrived from England.
There are several mentions of Walter COLLINS, a seaman, in the Gazettes. Not everyone has access to subscription only websites so I've linked a pdf of the notice.
Cando
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BDM VIC death
1889 / 1913 COLLINS Guinevere Eulalia parents Walt / Rebecca (BIDDULPH)
age 7 died Fitz N
Victoria Police Gazette 23 Apr 1878 (extract from Tasmania Crime Report)
https://www.ancestry.com.au/interactive/60885/44406_b220356-00147?
….Walter COLLINS "Lady Belmore...…..escaped from gang Queens Domain...…..FC..(Free to the colony)
I'm a bit confused abt the death above as she would of been born abt 1882, as at this time Rebecca was divorced from Walter Collins and was with Hetherington??
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Is this the same man as this one arrived in 1877 on the LADY BELMORE
COLLINS Walter
Convict transportation
Arrived 1 Jan 1877 on Lady Belmore
Source: Tasmanian convicts [index]
Conduct Record: CON37/10 p5974.
Comment: Free to colony. Tried Launceston Apr 1877
Walter and Rebecca were in Tasmania by 1872.
We are still trying to find when Walter and his wife Rebecca arrived from England.
There are several mentions of Walter COLLINS, a seaman, in the Gazettes. Not everyone has access to subscription only websites so I've linked a pdf of the notice.
Cando
Thanks for all that info is it possible he went back to UK or main land then was sent back as a convict?? Also what does Free to Colony mean was he convicted in the Colonies??
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BDM VIC death
1889 / 1913 COLLINS Guinevere Eulalia parents Walt / Rebecca (BIDDULPH)
age 7 died Fitz N
Victoria Police Gazette 23 Apr 1878 (extract from Tasmania Crime Report)
https://www.ancestry.com.au/interactive/60885/44406_b220356-00147?
….Walter COLLINS "Lady Belmore...…..escaped from gang Queens Domain...…..FC..(Free to the colony)
I'm a bit confused abt the death above as she would of been born abt 1882, as at this time Rebecca was divorced from Walter Collins and was with Hetherington??
I'm also confused Freya ;) Did Nathan George HETHERINGTON die in Sandhurst [Bendigo]?
Cando
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Is this the same man as this one arrived in 1877 on the LADY BELMORE
COLLINS Walter
Convict transportation
Arrived 1 Jan 1877 on Lady Belmore
Source: Tasmanian convicts [index]
Conduct Record: CON37/10 p5974.
Comment: Free to colony. Tried Launceston Apr 1877
Walter and Rebecca were in Tasmania by 1872.
We are still trying to find when Walter and his wife Rebecca arrived from England.
There are several mentions of Walter COLLINS, a seaman, in the Gazettes. Not everyone has access to subscription only websites so I've linked a pdf of the notice.
Cando
Thanks for all that info is it possible he went back to UK or main land then was sent back as a convict?? Also what does Free to Colony mean was he convicted in the Colonies??
I interpret the record as Walter the seaman, arrived on the LADY BELMORE on 1 Jan 1877 and was convicted in Tasmania therefore he would have been 'free to the colony".
I doubt it is the same Walter COLLINS. Just my two bob's worth ;D
These ancestors certainly didn't make it easy for researchers ::)
Cando
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My take :)
Walter, who had been convicted Launceston, Tasmania, in 1877, and had escaped and been re-captured and then he escaped again
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173145546 9 April 1879...
So he was a (colonial) convict. :) (adding, I also doubt he was the Walter COLLINS the OP is seeking - re his occupation ).
JM
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I found Nathan George HETHERINGTON
HETHERINGTON
George Nathaniel
Funeral notice
19APR1929
Funeral
at Swansea
Newcastle Herald
19APR1929
Also Rebecca
HETHERINGTON
Rebecca
Funeral notice
30NOV1928
Funeral
at Swansea
Newcastle Herald
30NOV1928
But not sure....
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Shame he sounds v interesting ;D
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20848/1928
HETHERINGTON Rebecca
Father James 78 years Swansea
District Toronto
9811/1929
HETHERINGTON George N
Mother Ann 75 years Swansea
District Toronto
Cando
Death notices
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article137795457
Edit to add notices.
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:)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/37145953 9 Jan 1877 Launceston Examiner
JM
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A Walter COLLINS, a seaman born c1850 died in South Australia in 1893 from alcoholic poisoning. He was found dead in a hotel and following an inquest was buried in Cheltenham Cemetery.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article53626766
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100221450
Cando
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Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate 5 Feb 1927 p13
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/137663149?
…..silver anniversary Mr and Mrs George HETHERINGTON...their residence "The Retreat" Swansea...
daughter of Mr and Mrs James ROBSON.....
NSW BDM marr.
1786/1902 HETHERINGTON George W m. ROBSON Elizabeth A @ Newcastle
NSW BDM death
28456/1948 HETHERINGTON George William parents George / Rebecca @ Newcastle
Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate 11 Dec 1948 p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/140351483?
...obituary George HETHERINGTON....70 years born Fitzroy...lived Minmi....lived England six years....
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Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate 5 Feb 1927 p13
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/137663149?
…..silver anniversary Mr and Mrs George HETHERINGTON...their residence "The Retreat" Swansea...
daughter of Mr and Mrs James ROBSON.....
NSW BDM marr.
1786/1902 HETHERINGTON George W m. ROBSON Elizabeth A @ Newcastle
NSW BDM death
28456/1948 HETHERINGTON George William parents George / Rebecca @ Newcastle
Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate 11 Dec 1948 p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/140351483?
...obituary George HETHERINGTON....70 years born Fitzroy...lived Minmi....lived England six years....
Thanks, I see this George is the son of Nathan and Rebecca Hetherington ;)
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Cando,
So is it he? ??? ???
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I think this is your Walter.
Australian Electoral Roll
1903
COLLINS Louisa 8 Bezzell Street Brunswick HD [Wonder who this was]
COLLINS Walter Allison 8 Bezzell Street Brunswick Painter
Death
COLLINS Walter
Father Robert Mother Jane ALLASON
At Brunswick 66 years 1903 Reg#11344
What do you think?
Cando
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Well maybe,I will try for that death cert at least he is a painter he reads more like him...
Hoping that his two sons names are listed :-\
Cheers Cando
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Edit. See reply#32. The surname is BECKETT.
1861 Census RG9/3805/4/1
Living at High West Street, Gateshead
PRICKITT Thomas Head Married 46 years Painter and Chapel helper Born City & County of Durham
PRICKITT Isabella Wife Married 46 years Ditto
PRICKITT Mary A Dau 19 years Ditto
PRICKITT Isabella S Dau 14 years Ditto
ROBINSON Mary Mother Widow 89 years Ditto
COLLINS Elizabeth Sister in law Unmarried 44 years Ditto
COLLINS Walter Nephew 19 years Painter Born Durham, Sunderland
1841 Sep qrt
COLLINS Walter Sunderland 24/272
Cando
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Marriages Sep 1838
ALLASON Jane Sunderland 24/200
COLLINS Robert Sunderland 24/00
Cando
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Marriage
COLLINS Robert Single Father Walter COLLINS
ALLASON Jane Single Father Robert ALLASON
9 Aug 1838 Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England
FHL Film Number 1514548
Cando
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1841 Census HO107/309/4
Living at Bishop Wearmouth South, Durham
COLLINS Robert 29 years Clerk Not born county
COLLINS Jane 30 years Born County
COLLINS Robert 1 Born County
ALDERTON Ellen 20 Female servant Not born county
Cando
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1841 Census HO107/309/4
Living at Bishop Wearmouth South, Durham
COLLINS Robert 29 years Clerk Not born county
COLLINS Jane 30 years Born County
COLLINS Robert 1 Born County
ALDERTON Ellen 20 Female servant Not born county
Cando
So thanks Cando! my original thoughts were Walters parents may of been part of the Irish invasion during the 30's Industrial revolution or later the Famine.. So I presume not born in county means not born in Durham ???
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BDM QLD births
1905 B10624 COLLINS Annie Margaret Ellen parents Thomas Hedley / Elizabeth Hopper
1907 B15182 COLLINS Allison James Robert parents Thomas Hedley / Elizabeth Annie Hopper
1910 B22344 COLLINS Edward Bertram parents Thomas Hedley / Elizabeth Annie Hopper
1911 B26934 COLLINS John Gordon parents Thomas Hedley / Elizabeth Annie Hopper
BDM QLD death
1957 B22724 COLLINS Thomas Hedley parents Walter Allison / Mary Bidduff
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Not born county means just that.
I think the 1861 census has been mistranscribed as this appears to be the same family.
1851 Census HO107/2402/39/13
Living at Brunswick Terrace, Gateshead
BECKETT Thomas Head Married 36 years Railway Agent Born Durham, Durham
BECKETT Mary Ann Dau 9 years Born Durham, Durham
BECKETT Isabell Dau 4 years Born Gateshead, Durham
COLLINS Elizabeth Sister in law Unmarried 34 Born Durham, Durham
COLLINS Robert Nephew 10 Born Durham, Durham
COLLINS Walter Nephew 9 Born Sunderland Durham
DIMLEBY David Visitor Unmarried 32 years Railway Clerk Born York, Beverley
Marriages Dec 1840
BECKETT Thomas Newcastle 25/358
COLLINS Isabell Newcastle 25/358
Cando
Edit to add marriage
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Cando,
Would the marriage cert of Robert Collins and Jane ALLASON give information of where Robert was born? ??? (Full cert)
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Possibly the Brunswick reference was sourced from this record. I note that Walter's occupation on the birth certificates for his two children in Tasmania was house painter and painter.
COLLINS Walter
Unemployed
Date 1892
Place East Brunswick, Victoria
Status Married
Occupation Painter.
Source: Index to the Register of unemployed tradesmen and labourers.
Public Record Office Victoria: VPRS 1053/P0 Units 1-3. Unit 2 Pge 121
Comment No of children 2
Cando
It does state married here on register although his divorce from Rebecca Biddulph was given in 1879
??? could the Louisa in 1903 Australian Electoral Roll be a new wife?
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Cando,
Would the marriage cert of Robert Collins and Jane ALLASON give information of where Robert was born? ??? (Full cert)
English marriage certificates are scant on information. Usually for the groom - his name, age [full or minor], condition [marital status] occupation, marital status, usual residence, father's name and occupation.
This MAY be his father in 1841
Living at St Nicholas, Durham
COLLINS Walter 66 years Bricklayer Not born County
COLLINS Isabell 65 years Born County
COLLINS Elizabeth 20 Born County
You would need to purchase Robert's marriage certificate from GRO to find his father's occupation.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#FamilyHistory
I think you need to start your research with Walter's 1907 death certificate from Vic bdm.
Cando
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Possibly the Brunswick reference was sourced from this record. I note that Walter's occupation on the birth certificates for his two children in Tasmania was house painter and painter.
COLLINS Walter
Unemployed
Date 1892
Place East Brunswick, Victoria
Status Married
Occupation Painter.
Source: Index to the Register of unemployed tradesmen and labourers.
Public Record Office Victoria: VPRS 1053/P0 Units 1-3. Unit 2 Pge 121
Comment No of children 2
Cando
It does state married here on register although his divorce from Rebecca Biddulph was given in 1879
??? could the Louisa in 1903 Australian Electoral Roll be a new wife?[/size]
Prior to posting the above I searched both my Tasmanian and Victorian resources for a second marriage for Walter to a Louisa/Louise. No result.
Perhaps consider the reason for Walter appearing on the index. Perhaps there was some kind of relief available for the unemployed and if he was living in a defacto relationship he would naturally write married.
I can't help you anymore. The death certificate needs to be seen for you to progress with your research otherwise it is speculation.
Good luck
Cando
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Cheers will do. :)
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Freya would you please type up all the details from the death certificate. More curious than anything else ;D
I've searched the larger cemeteries in the Metropolitan area for his burial and could only find a 1907 burial for a Walter COLLINGS at Coburg Pine Ridge but place of burial location unknown. Possibly a pauper burial with others. Of course it may not be him and he may have been buried at Melbourne General Cemetery and their records are not online.
Cheers
Cando
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Righto will work on that today ;D
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Cando
"The death of Walter Collins"
Walter Collins died aged 66yrs 3 December 1907, his occupation is down as painter.
Parents listed as Robert Collins, Clerk and his wife Jane Collins nee Allason.
He was buried on the 4th at Coburg Cemetery, note was born in Sunderland England, 17yrs lived in Tasmania and 19 in Victoria, he married once to Rebecca Biddulph, say for 27yrs, but we know they divorced when in Tasmania. Children Robert Biddulph aged 24 and Thomas Hedley aged 32.
Cause of death Brain Tumour ;D
Thanks for your great help ;D
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"..Walter Collins died aged 66yrs 3 December 1907"
Where did he die, and who is the informant.
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Thank you Freya. Pleased it was your man :)
What were the ages of his children on the certificate?
I think you have misinterpreted the marriage information. The heading of the column on Victorian death certs in that era "If Deceased Was Married" and under the heading "Where and at what age and to whom". As you have mentioned 27 years that would refer to Walter's age when he married Rebecca in England.
Informant's name can often be very helpful but so often it is the undertaker or his staff. Hopefully in this case it is family member or neighbour.
Bear in mind that information on a death certificate is often inaccurate but much of what you have typed is correct. The informant may not have been aware that Walter was divorced. Now I wonder who was Louisa COLLINS who was enrolled to vote at the same address in 1903?
Cando
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Cando
"The death of Walter Collins"
Walter Collins died aged 66yrs 3 December 1907, his occupation is down as painter.
Parents listed as Robert Collins, Clerk and his wife Jane Collins nee Allason.
He was buried on the 4th at Coburg Cemetery, note was born in Sunderland England, 17yrs lived in Tasmania and 19 in Victoria, he married once to Rebecca Biddulph, say for 27yrs, but we know they divorced when in Tasmania. Children Robert Biddulph aged 24 and Thomas Hedley aged 32.
Cause of death Brain Tumour ;D
Thanks for your great help ;D
Obviously a pauper burial in common ground.
COLLINGS Walter 66 years
Coburg Pine Ridge Cemetery
CHURCH ENGLAND Common Graves CO-COEC*X***1X Interment 04 Dec 1907
You may like to advise the Trust of the error in their database. I suggest you forward a scan of the death certificate.
enquiries@gmct.com.au
Cando
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I spent some time tyring to trace Robert Biddulph COLLINS and nothing. However back tracking to double check his birth cert, baptism and the divorce papers I find he was named Theophilus Robert COLLINS in the latter.
There is a marriage for a Theophilus COLLINS in NSW in 1915. Of course it may simply be a coincidence.
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Walters family also later on lived in Geelong so hence confusion on my behalf.
Freya could you elaborate on this. Who lived in Geelong?
Cando
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For your tree :)
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I think you have some Australian Royalty in your tree ;) I found a newspaper report of a Robert COLLINS of Durham who committed forgery by falsifying a gift deed and was transported to Tasmania for 15 years in 1843. His master [employer] was Mr Stafford. His age in 1844 matches Robert's on the 1841 census. Noted initally married with two children then later noted three children. Could read and write and native [born] of Worcester.
Read it and see what you think. Remember Robert and Walter were not with parents on the 1851 census.
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON33-1-49,268,86,F,60
I'll post the Durham newspaper item if you think it is your Robert. Could his presence in Tasmania one of the reasons Walter and Rebecca emigrated? Further investigation required.
Robert COLLINS was granted a Certificate of Freedom in 1853 and in 1858 a Robert COLLINS, clerk, 47 years [born c1811 same as Robert COLLINS on 1841 census], married. When he died his Will only mentions Ann, his widow. He died in 1876 and was a licensed victualler born England.
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Cando,
It all seem's to apply to convict records for Robert Collins! The only question is did he remarried again to a Ann in Tassie and maybe have a further family, leaving his first wife in England ?
Regarding "Geelong" see attachment.
Also a previous email requested ages of Walters sons on his death from DC, they were Robert 34 and Thomas 32, there was no relative informant on DC...
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Have noted the will of Ann collins 1878 who was a licensed victualler in Hobart, Widow wife of Robert Collins she had been married before, all in her will was left to her son Patrick Mcavoy..
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The only question is did he remarried again to a Ann in Tassie and maybe have a further family, leaving his first wife in England ?
Regarding "Geelong" see attachment.
A death of a grandson's wife in 1992 is a pretty remote event from a death in 1922 or 1907 ;)
Also a previous email requested ages of Walters sons on his death from DC, they were Robert 34 and Thomas 32, there was no relative informant on DC...
I think you meant reply/post not email.
You previously wrote Children Robert Biddulph aged 24 and Thomas Hedley aged 32.
I questioned Robert's name as it was the same as his birth name but different to his name in the Divorce file - Robert Theophilus COLLINS. See Reply#44.
It is often the small details that break down brick walls or assist in further research. I cannot find anything about a Robert Biddulph COLLINS however there was a Theophilus COLLINS in NSW.
Freya you don't appear to be reading the attachments. I attached Robert's second marriage certificate. Click on the link. I don't post certificates for display on the thread as it breaches copyright. If you convert your information to pdf only the link shows.
Speculative research. I think Ann McAVOY/McEVOY was a convict from Ireland and noted at married at the time of her transportation. She had an illegitimate child in 1851. Was it Patrick I wonder as he was noted 'little boy' in a news article in 1858.
I had found much more including Ann's Will however chose not to post the information to allow you to 'draw breathe' and consider the possibility that this Robert was Walter's father.
Many convicts married again as I understand that their TOL did not permit them to return 'home'. If this was Walter's father then how do we know that his mother Jane did not marry again or was deceased by 1858?
I found many items in the Tasmanian newspapers including Robert's insolvency and items about his establishments. I'll leave you to research them. If you could obtain a copy of the ORIGINAL marriage certificate from GRO [not a transcribed one], then signatures could be compared. I think Robert COLLINS, clerk, convict was Walter's father.
Cando
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A little more to support the research that Robert COLLINS, clerk, convict who initially was noted with two children [Robert and Walter] and later noted as having three children, was your Walter's father.
Births Dec 1843
COLLINS John Allason Durham 24/81
Cando
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"...there was no relative informant on DC"
This does not answer the question. Often the informant named is an agent, or the undertaker, or a hospital ward clerk etc, in which case they are also identified by such descriptor.
Can you write here what you are seeing for informant.
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Did Walter die at home? He was enrolled to vote at 8 Bezzell Street, Brunswick in 1903.
Perhaps you could attach the register page as downloaded from Vic bdm it is in pdf so when you attach select the saved pdf file from your computer. Makes it easier for everyone.
I wondered about the death of Guinavere Eulalie COLLINS aged 7 months with Walter named as father and mother Rebecca BIDDULPH in 1889. According to Walter's death certificate he had been resident in Victoria for 19 years, so arrived c1888.
Birth - rather strange transcription - from my own resource
COLLINS Guiniver Ewalie F [Fisher]
Father not recorded Mother Rachel BURNS
4 Jun 1888
At Hobart Reg#67
And certificate linked. He adopted her :).
Cando
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Sorry been away.
For those who were asking further questions abt Walter Collins dc find full cert attached.
Sorry Cando I didn't see that attachment re marriage cert Walter and Ann Collins thanks.
I will try and follow up further info u suggested.
Finding it very curious abt adoption!
Thanks