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Title: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 14 July 18 16:47 BST (UK)
She was born in  Wales in 1871, she married a Davies but he died in 1905. I have found a tree that has her as Coutts, in Sydney parish registers, Burials , electoral registers etc.
Can anyone find more about her please.  I only have UK ancestry so am limited.
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: suzard on Saturday 14 July 18 17:28 BST (UK)
Her birth was registered Mar qtr 1874 Wrexham

I don't have worldwide access but can find  a marriage (can't view full details) to Joseph C Coutts in Sydney

there is an emigration record for Mrs Bertha Alice Davies address 12 Dalton Rd going to Sydney on 7 Jun 1924 but she is age 35

Suz
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 14 July 18 18:02 BST (UK)
There is a death for a Bertha Elizabeth Coutts 1938
Canterbury N S W
Fathers name Luke

Findagrave has her death date as 5 October 1938

Marriage as suzard found was in 1910

Found baptism for a son Joseph Gordon Ralph Coutts birth 9th May 1911 Sydney NSW
Father Joseph Cunnings Coutts
Mother Bertha Elizabeth Alice Coutts

Rosie
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 14 July 18 19:29 BST (UK)
That's her , her father was Luke Ralph. Thank you.
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 14 July 18 19:31 BST (UK)
That's her , her father was Luke Ralph. Thank you.

That's good not found immigration record so far


Rosie
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: Westward on Sunday 15 July 18 01:13 BST (UK)
They married in Sydney 4th July 1911 - from NSW BDM
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au

7173/1910 COUTTS JOSEPH C DAVIES BERTHA E A

Death registered in Canterbury district (suburb of Sydney) died 5th June 1938
22529/1938 COUTTS  BERTHA ELIZABETH ALICE  LUKE

Because her mother's name is missing from the index (and probably the certificate, there is a little extra information
Age at death  62 YRS Place of death CAMPSIE
(If she was born in 1871,  the informant thought she was a little younger  :) - 62 at death gives a birth year of 1876)


Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 15 July 18 01:39 BST (UK)
Funeral notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article236417744

At Woronora:

Bertha E A Coutts 5-10-1938 Burial
Baptist Monumental - Section V - 0017

Not buried with other Coutts.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 July 18 01:41 BST (UK)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17525157 Sydney Morning Herald 6 October 1938 ...

JM
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 July 18 01:45 BST (UK)
They married in Sydney 4th July 1911 - from NSW BDM
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au

7173/1910 COUTTS JOSEPH C DAVIES BERTHA E A

Death registered in Canterbury district (suburb of Sydney) died 5th June 1938
22529/1938 COUTTS  BERTHA ELIZABETH ALICE  LUKE

Because her mother's name is missing from the index (and probably the certificate, there is a little extra information
Age at death  62 YRS Place of death CAMPSIE
(If she was born in 1871,  the informant thought she was a little younger  :) - 62 at death gives a birth year of 1876)

Not sure why the DD is noted as 5 June 1938, NSW BDM online index drills down to 5 October 1938. 

ADD ...
 :) Reply 2 already gave DD as 5 Oct 1938.
 :) NSW BDM has marriage as registered in 1910, so cannot be married 4 July 1911.  Drills down at NSW BDM to 4 July 1910  :)

JM
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 15 July 18 01:48 BST (UK)
The son:

COUTTS Joseph Gordon Ralph Death notice 22-9-1993 Death 82 late of Bathurst Sydney Morning Herald 23-9-1993

Jamjar
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 July 18 01:52 BST (UK)
Well found  Jamjar.

I hope to be out near Bathurst in early September this year.  I will have camera, (and my kit etc) and my husband will have gardening tools for clearing away any overgrowth from several ancestors graves.   :)

JM
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 15 July 18 01:57 BST (UK)
Excellent JM.  :)

The husband: 35573/1964 COUTTS Joseph Cummings NOT KNOWN NOT KNOWN BATHURST

Jamjar
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 15 July 18 02:10 BST (UK)
Bathurst cemetery, father not showing:

1659 COUTTS Joseph Gordon R 22-9-1993 82 24-9-1993 C 4 11 LAWN HEADSTONE
7502 COUTTS Myrtle Emily 23-12-1995 84 27-12-1995 C 4 11 LAWN HEADSTONE

Marriage:

13986/1937 COUTTS Joseph Gordon Ralph to JONES Myrtle Emily HURSTVILLE

Jamjar
         
         
 
   
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 July 18 02:11 BST (UK)
Thanks Jamjar.  I will strive to get photos for the OP.

JM
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 15 July 18 02:24 BST (UK)
A daughter: 24896/1915 COUTTS Margaret H parents JOSEPH C and BERTHA E WALGETT

Marriage? 8372/1936 TEFFLEY Charles Alfred to COUTTS Margaret Henrietta CANTERBURY

COUTTS Myrtle Emily (Myrl) Death notice 23-12-1995 Death at St Vincent's Hospital, late of Chifley Village, formerly of Bathurst Western Advocate (Bathurst) 27-12-1995

Jamjar
Title: Re: Bertha Alice Elizabeth Ralph / Davies.
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 15 July 18 08:25 BST (UK)
Sorry, my mistake. Thanks for all your help.
Births Mar 1874 Ralph  Bertha Elizabeth A    Wrexham  11b 322