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Title: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 19:28 BST (UK)
Hello,

Back to square one :(

Whoever is a descendant of George Pochin, born in Gilmorton in 1744 and dying in Wigston in 1820 is a descendant of the Pochin family of Barkby Hall. Sadly it isn't me.

I did know of two marriages for people named George Pochin in Wigston, one in 1765 (to Alice Bruin) and one in 1786 (to my ancestor, Jane Bailey - of whom I know nothing). However, today I found a burial for Jane Pochin in the 1790s, that gives her husband as George. This therefore rules out the 1744 christening and 1820 burial for my side of the family, after all the information I've collected.

All I know is that George married Jane Bailey (know nothing of her either) in Wigston in 1786. My ancestor was born there in 1791. I don't have a christening or a burial for George. I hope I can still link my family up to the one I researched so extensively.

Any help would be great,

Adam
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 14 July 18 19:48 BST (UK)
Hi Adam

Just to clarify - There is a George that died 1820 and was of Great Wigston ?

There is a Will of a George Pochin dated 1820 and leaves his estate to wife Jane - this would suggest she was still alive and not the burial you have found in 1786.

Could this still be your family ?

Claire

Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: iluleah on Saturday 14 July 18 19:58 BST (UK)
George Pochin & Jane Bailey 28 Apr. 1786 Wigston Magna

Maybe a trip to Wigston Magna and the records office there will help... if not possible http://www.wigstonhistoricalsociety.co.uk/
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 20:53 BST (UK)
Does it? In which case the Pochins are my kin! My George would have been around 40 when he married, so when I found the burial for Alice Pochin I assumed that the George born in 1744 was her husband. Thanks!
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 20:56 BST (UK)
Just to be clear:

There were two George Pochins marrying in Wigston. One in 1765 to Alice Bruin and one in 1786 to Jane Bailey. I assumed that they were one and the same, and that Alice had died and George remarried (as much older). However, Alice Pochin died in 1791, after my George married Jane Bailey. The will separates the two and re-affirms my links!
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 20:59 BST (UK)
Can anyone find a christening for Jane Bailey prior to 1786, and any burials post-1820 in Wigston?
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: iluleah on Saturday 14 July 18 21:39 BST (UK)
George Pochin & Jane Bailey 28 Apr. 1786 Wigston Magna

Maybe a trip to Wigston Magna and the records office there will help... if not possible http://www.wigstonhistoricalsociety.co.uk/

That way you can see the real PR record and also check for baptisms.......

I think I saw he was 42yrs when he married and the surname 'Bailey' is a fairly established Wigston Magna name ( could be connected to your ancestry or not)
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 21:58 BST (UK)
I'm away at the moment and I see the marriage record is on Ancestry, but I'll contact them to see what they have. Thanks.
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: Bunnygirl on Saturday 14 July 18 22:26 BST (UK)
Hi
There are 2 burials on NBI for All Saints Wigston post 1820
Jane Pochin 20 Sept 1837 aged 73yrs
Jane Pochin May 1869 aged 84yrs Welford Road Cem Leicester

Regards
Bunnygirl
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 22:33 BST (UK)
It'd be the second one. Thanks! That gives an idea of a christening time scale too.
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: Bunnygirl on Saturday 14 July 18 22:56 BST (UK)
According to CD she was from  County Lunatic Asylum, St Mary's Leicester .
Burial in plot cL 1569c

Bunnygirl
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 22:59 BST (UK)
Goodness. That is very sad to hear. Thank you.
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 23:36 BST (UK)
With an estimated birth year of around 1764, can anyone find a christening for Jane Bailey in Wigston?
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 14 July 18 23:49 BST (UK)

Hi

Can't see any in Wigston closest that I can find

Jane bapt. 20 Jun 1766 dau of John & Elizabeth Bailey in Leicester. ( about 4 miles from Wigston)

Jane bapt. 13 May 1762 dau of John & Mary Bailey, again in Leicester.

There are a few others but geography wise they are further away

Jane dau of Henry & Sarah Bailey bapt. 9 Jan 1763 in Heather.

Jane dau of Matthew & Elizabeth BAILY bapt. 13 Mar 1763 Waltham on the Wolds

Jane dau of William & Mary BEALEY bapt. 18 May 1766 Wycombe & Chadwell.


Claire




Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 23:51 BST (UK)
Thanks again Claire!
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: iluleah on Saturday 14 July 18 23:51 BST (UK)
Name    Jane Baylie
Residence Place    Wigston-Magna, Leicester, England
Gender    Female
Christening Date    11 Apr 1757
Christening Place    Wigston-Magna, Leicester, England
Father's Name    John Baylie
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 14 July 18 23:54 BST (UK)

Oooh that's a good find  :D
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Saturday 14 July 18 23:59 BST (UK)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Sunday 15 July 18 00:02 BST (UK)
Judging by the age, I think that Jane married Richard Bronson on the 4th of November 1776 in Wigston :(
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 15 July 18 00:15 BST (UK)

Whichever Jane Bailey married Richard BRANSON (from the PR) she died in June 1789,  burial she is BRANSTON.

No age on the burial record either.

Claire
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Sunday 15 July 18 00:47 BST (UK)
Very sad.
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: DCB on Sunday 15 July 18 12:32 BST (UK)
Something on the will of George who died in 1820. One of the witnesses was Henry Pochin. I thought he might be George's son, although he wouldn't normally be a witness. Looking again, he was likely to be the son of Mr. J (John and Mary?) Pochin, b 1791.

George's signature on the will isn't exactly the same as the one in the marriage register but changed with age and similar, especially the capital P.

Henry's signature is very similar the the person who married Mary Kenney on 16th January 1816 in Cosby. Presumably, George and Jane's son married Catherine Berry in 1820 - will dated 1869, naming five children.

David
Title: Re: Pochin mystery
Post by: MacGrigor on Sunday 15 July 18 12:41 BST (UK)
Thank you David. Having viewed the marriage record, I was amazed that George was literate! Although he was a labourer, he did come from gentry stock originally, so it's likely he would've been taught to read and write. His wife only made her mark, so was presumably illiterate.