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Title: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: floggle toggle on Monday 23 July 18 13:48 BST (UK)
I am trying to find the parents of Leopoldine Lapierre.
She was born in Canada (Quebec?) 2.7.1896 and died 2.7.1992, she married Noah Wheatley and then Ole Knudsen - Social Security application.
The 1910 U.S. census shows Leopoldine, here farther Arthur and brother Edgar in Oakland, Alameda, California.
the Social Security application shows here parents as Zaphir Lapierre and Melina Martel. While other records have shown here mother as Martel, I have only found records for Zaphir Arthur Lapierre marrying Pauline Scraire.

Floggle toggle
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 23 July 18 14:06 BST (UK)
Anc tree has her full name as Maria Melina Victoria Leopoldine LaPierre but the birth date varies from yours.  28 October 1894 -  ???

USA - SSDI  - Leopoldine Wheatley  28 October 1894 - 2 July 1992 - Oakland, 94606, Alameda, California.

Sandra
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: floggle toggle on Monday 23 July 18 14:37 BST (UK)
thank you Sandra.
I have also seen that tree, the records I have seen - newspapers about Mothers cookies, (Noah was the founder), SSDI and Census etc. have just Leopoldine - other names are not even hinted at i.e. initials. it could be she dropped them like Arthur might have dropped Zaphir?

interestingly, FindMyPast does not list Maria Melina Victoria Leopoldine LaPierre, but there are hundreds of Leopoldine's, Zaphir's and LaPierre's.
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 23 July 18 14:46 BST (UK)
Amazing not finding exact matches with what you would think were unusual names but there seems to be lots  :-\

Yes. I did come across a census with Zéphirin as the father of an Arthur in an 1871 census St Louis Montreal Quebec.  ???

Sandra
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: TreeSpirit on Tuesday 24 July 18 11:06 BST (UK)
As I’d become totally confused, I’ve gone back to basics ...

According to the California death index:
Leopoldine Lapierre Wheatley/Knudson was born on 28 Oct 1894 in Canada and died on 02 Jul 1992 in Almeda, California. Her mothers surname is Martel.
( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPSQ-GQN and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VP6V-KCK )

In the 1910 census in Oakland Ward 7, Alameda, California,  we can find:
Arthur Lapierre b abt 1859, widowed, occupation photographer
Leopoldine Lapierre b abt 1895
Edgar Lapierre b abt 1896
Note: The family had immigrated to the US abt 1907/8.
( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRJD-S23?i=21&cc=1727033 )

In Feb 1915, a 20 year old Leopoldine Rose Lapierre (b Montreal, QC) immigrates from Canada to the States.
She is on her way to Oakland (CA), but had been living in Calgary, AB. This is also where her brother Armand Lapierre is residing.
Her US contact is her stepmother Louise Lapierre, but her fiancé had paid for the  ticket.
Leopoldine declares that she had previously lived in the USA from 1907-Sep 1914.
( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DH-X7LX?i=447&cc=2185163   and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99D3-B7SF-9?i=1602&cc=2185163  )

Note#1
On 07 Aug 1914, an Arthur Z Lapierre (55y) dies in Almeda, CA. This could be the reason why Leopoldina had travelled back to Canada in Sep 1914

Note#2
I assume that this is a probability for the brother:
Name: Armond Camille Henri Lapierre
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 11 Jun 1936
Event Place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 50
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 08 Oct 1885
Birth Year (Estimated): 1886
Birthplace: Montreal, Quebec
Father's Name: Arthur Camille Lapierre
Mother's Name: Melina Martell
Spouse's Name: Exilda Lapierre
( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL5K-13F )
In 1916 in Calgary: http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21948/jpg/31228_4363977-00715.jpg
In Jan 1917, his wife and children are visitng the "Weakley" rellies: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DH-XXDL?i=610&cc=2185163
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: MaureeninNY on Tuesday 24 July 18 11:46 BST (UK)
Would this be brother Edgar's baptism (From the Drouin Collection on Ancestry):
Name:   Joseph Edgard Yvan Lapierre
Event Type:   Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Date:   1897

I can't read it all but the parents seem to be correct.

Maureen
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: TreeSpirit on Tuesday 24 July 18 12:07 BST (UK)
that was my suspicion as well ...
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: eileenwilson on Tuesday 24 July 18 14:02 BST (UK)
Baptism for Edgard given above took place at Notre Dame de Grace in Montreal.  Parents' names given are Arthur Lapierre and Marie Melina Martel.  Arthur is a photographer by profession. Godparents are Eugene Lapierre, merchant of St. Jacques Montreal and Alice Ranger, his wife.

In the same church, I believe I have found Leopoldine, baptized 28 October 1894 (birth date does not seem to be given), daughter of Arthur Lapierre, photographer and Marie Melina(?), of this parish.  Her name looks like Marie Meline Victoria Leopoldine Lapierre.  Godparents are Charles Lapierre and Victoria Monette.
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: eileenwilson on Tuesday 24 July 18 14:07 BST (UK)
Son Joseph Louis Leopold  born 4 January 1896 baptized the following day. Parents are Zephire Arthur Lapierre and Marie Melina Martel. Godparents are Louis Alfred Martel and Marie Laura Martel.
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 24 July 18 22:28 BST (UK)
Great finds, eileenwilson! and MaureeinNY!

Haven't been able to find any children baptized prior to Leopoldine but have found this possible marriage that matches the parents of the known children.....

At St Jacques le Mineur Church in Montreal 07 Jan 1884 (yes!)
Zephire Arthur Lapierre son of the age of majority of Zephire Lapierre and deceased Exilda Fayette dite Lesperance of this parish
and
Marie Melina Martel daughter of minor age (under 21) of Louis Alfred Martel and deceased Marie Emelie Simard of this parish.

Both parties signed.
Witnesses were both fathers who also signed.

Anyway, food for thought.

PB

Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: eileenwilson on Tuesday 24 July 18 22:51 BST (UK)
Good one, Polar Bear.

Found a baptism for a child at Notre Dame Basilica born 19 August 1884 -- Louis-Zepherin Arthur, son of Zepherin Arthur Lapierre, merchant, and Marie Melina Martelle; sponsor is Zeherin Lapierre, grandfather, and Anna Martelle, aunt.

Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 24 July 18 23:30 BST (UK)
Looks good, eileenwilson.

Sure would be nice if we could find the family in a census or two before they move to the USA. They are well hidden.

One thing's for sure...they appear to be well educated. Their handwriting is beautiful!

PB
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: eileenwilson on Wednesday 25 July 18 00:43 BST (UK)
Finally found him in the Lovell Montreal Directory in 1896 as Arthur Lapierre, photographer, with an address of Notre Dame des Neiges.  Having trouble finding him in other years.
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: floggle toggle on Thursday 26 July 18 08:03 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone.
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: RJ137 on Friday 10 August 18 16:40 BST (UK)
Oakland Tribune
Oakland, California
Saturday, August 08, 1914 - Page 20


LAPIERRE In this city, August 7, 1914, Arthur Z., dearly beloved husband or the late Mefina Lapierre, loving father of Leopoidine, Edgar, Armand, Arthur, Robert and Almee Lapierre, a native of Canada, aged 55  years, 8 months and  26 days.

Friends and acquaintances are respectfully invited to attend the funeral Monday. August 10, 1914, at 9 o'clock a. m., from the parlor of Honch & Kenney, 8470 Piedmont avenue, at Westall avenue, thence to St. Anthony's church, East Fifteenth street and Sixteenth avenue, where a requiem mass will be celebrated for the repose of his soul, commencing at 8:30 a. m. Interment, St. Mary's cemetery.

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Edgar 1928: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/5220972/oakland_tribune/
Title: Re: Leopoldine Lapierre
Post by: floggle toggle on Monday 13 August 18 07:51 BST (UK)
Thank you RJ137 for this and the attached article which is of great interest, in that it shows that Noah employed Edgar at one time before "repaying him" - burglarizing him.