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I am spinning my head around and around and almost ready to give up!!! Can anyone please give me a opinion on this strange family of my husbands.
Question: If children were baptized in the Church around 1890's in Blackburn, did the parents have to be married?
I have 3 children baptized in a church with parents named Emmanuel and Annie Pickering. These are the correct children. The 4th child(husband's Grandmother) I obtained a copy of the birth record from the Registrar's office and the mother (Annie Pickering) is given Barnes as the maiden name.
The 1901 Census shows the family together, however, the wife's name is listed as Mary Hannah Pickering. Have searched for a marriage record with various names, Mary, Hannah, Annie, but nothing, so I think they weren't married. Also could be a different woman??
In 1904-1906 they appear in the newspapers as neglecting their children over favour of drink and both parents spend time in jail. The mother is referred to as Annie Pickering.
In 1906 the children are taken from the parents and put in a workhouse (not confirmed but this is what the newspaper said). 2 boys stayed in England and the 2 girls were sent to Canada in 1911 as part of Bernardo homes.
In 1909, Emmanuel Pickering dies in the workhouse.
1911 Census has the 2 girls as boarders with another family. Albert and Elizabeth Dean.
1913 both girls are sent to Canada as part of the Bernardo Homes program and the boys stay in England.
Rebecca Pickering the youngest child of Emmanuel and Annie returns to England with her children in 1927 and lives in Oswaldtwistle with her brother Robert. My husband's Grandmother is Rebecca.
This is now the strange part of my research. I found a death record for a Annie Pickering for 26 June, 1947,living in Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire. At the time she was living with her 2 sisters, Sarah Barnes a widow, and another Anne Pickering. Her sister has the married name of Barnes, and is a widow, but the 2 other girls are listed as single.
I query the 1901 Census and find this family of 3 girls living with their elderly father William Pickering and yet in1901 there is a record of the 4 children living with Emmanual and Mary Hannah Pickering. They also appear in 1911 Census as the 3 girls all single, but Sarah marries a Henry Barnes later that year.
I am so confused because the 1901 census lists all the children and year of births which is correct. Oswaldtwistle is where they returned in 1927 until after the war and Grandma Pickering lived there and was still alive when they returned to Canada in the late 1930's.
Can anyone advise there thoughts on my research. Maybe another source I could check. Could there have been more then one Annie Pickering born around 1865 living in Oswaldtwistle. On the 1901 Census where the name of Mary Hannah Pickering is given, it said she was from Royton, Lancashire, but couldn't find any records.
Any advice I will truly be grateful!!!! Need a aspirin, I have a headache!!!! Don't want to give up but so frustrating.
Thanks in advance.
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Annie could be short for Hannah so I would say the Mary Hannah on the census is probably the Annie of the Baptism register.
And no, the parents did not have to be married to have their children baptised -- or could lie and pretend to be married when just living together.
There could well be more than one Annie Pickering of the same age in Oswaldtwistle.
Have you found your Annie on the 1939 register?
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Agree with Marmalady - Annie could well be a diminutive of Hannah. It might be that Mary Hannah was her given name but that she was familiarly known as Annie.
Also suggested in reply #10 here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787750.msg6431842#msg6431842
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Has anyone found Emmanuel in 1891?
There is this couple in 1891 but it would be a few years to the birth of son George :-\
1891 3330/21
Castleton, Rochdale
James Pickering 34yrs Cotton Weaver b Blackburn
Annie Pickering 26 yrs Card Room Hand b Royton
I can’t see James in any other census :-\
In 1901 Emmanuel is a Fitter’s Labourer in a foundry but in 1881 he is a Cotton Weaver.
Heywood
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I think the three ladies in 1939 may be a red herring. They appear together in a number of census from 1881 onwards and it looks as if they are indeed sisters all born with surname Pickering ( children of William Pickering and Nancy (Nanny) Fielding). They were living in Oswaldtwistle by the time of the 1891 census.
Isobel
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Wow, thank you everyone for the advice and opinion!!! I don't want to judge, but Emmanuel and Annie Pickering were not the best parents. For sure the 1901 Census with the 4 children, where she goes by Mary Hannah Pickering , living at 85 Cleaver Street, is 100% my family I'm interested in.
The only Annie Pickering born around 1865 I found on the 1939 National Registry was the one entry with the 3 sisters living at 63 Lord Street, then the death record in 1947 for Annie Pickering, born around 1865 is the same address. I thought this would be my Annie, when I saw "Barnes" as her sister's married name, but this group of 3 sister's family name was Pickering, so maybe I have the wrong family and therefore the wrong death record for Annie Pickering. Going back to the 1901 Census, Mary Hannah says she was from Royton, Lancashire. Search birth records but nothing for that place. Another certainty is that they were living in Oswaldtwistle in the 1930's because that is when my husband's Mother was still living in England and called this lady Grandma Pickering.
I will go back to searching Mary, Mary Hannah, Annie etc. in Oswaldtwistle for death records for the 1930's-1940's.
Thank you everyone for looking my information over. I really appreciated it!!!!
Back to the drawing board.!!!
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Barnes is a very common name in those parts.
Biblical names such as Emmanuel were popular in Oswaldtwistle & area so not surprising there were a few men called Emmanuel Pickering.
Dates of birth on 1939 Register aren't all accurate. One of my uncles is a year out.
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Did you consider the 1891 entry I posted?
It doesn’t help much but might be worth noting.
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Could Mary Hannah's pob have been Rishton rather than Royton? Rishton is near Oswaldtwistle. Probably Great Harwood registration district. My aforesaid uncle was born there but his dad mangled the spelling on 1911 census. It was down as Bolton on 1901 census; possibly Granddad's handwriting again, or a census clerk saw Harwood on form and absentmindedly wrote Bolton. (There's a Harwood near Bolton.)
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1911 shows Annie Tierney born Royton and living in Blackburn.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4MB-5RQ
1939 indictates she is Mary H Tierney.
There is a marriage 1919 Blackburn Registry Office/Registrar attended
Thomas Tierney and Annie Pickering
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I wonder ...
1871 4108/123/22
Radcliffe Street Royton
John Barnes 56 yrs Clogger b Oldham
Mary Barnes 59 yrs b Royton
Alfred Barnes 21 yrs
Mary H Booth granddaughter 6 yrs b Royton
Robert King boarder 52 yrs
Birth 1865
Mary Hannah Booth mmn Booth
Wonder where Barnes fits?
Alfred Barnes b 1849 mmn King.
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1881 4095/65/34
Mary A Booth is described as a lodger and living with John Barnes and Alfred Barnes and wife.
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Just to finish off this information
Deaths
Thomas Tierney 73 yrs June quarter 1941 Blackburn vol 8e pg 279
Then there is :-\
Hannah S Tierney 76yrs December quarter 1941 vol 8e pg 497
This one shows as Hannah Sophia though on Lancashire BMD and there is a Sophia in 1901 so likely not her.
heywood
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Baptism: 10 Mar 1895 St Philip, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Elsie Mary Pickering - Daughter of Emmanuel Pickering & Annie
Born: 12 Feb 1895
Abode: Russell Place Great Harwood
Occupation: manager
Baptised by: J. O. Pinck
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Baptism: 31 Jan 1897 St Bartholomew, Great Harwood, Lancashire, England
Cyril John Pickering - Son of Emmanuel Pickering & Annie
Born: 21 Dec 1896
Abode: 2 Railway View
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Baptism: 5 Jun 1898 St Bartholomew, Great Harwood, Lancashire, England
Walter Norman Pickering - Son of Emmanuel Pickering & Annie
Born: 8 May 1898
Abode: 2 Railway View
Occupation: Mill Manager
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Baptism: 14 Oct 1900 St Paul, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Herbert Pickering - [Child] of Emmanuel Pickering & Ann
Born: 5 Aug 1900
Abode: 6 Alma St.
Occupation: Weaver
looks like he was demoted as Mill Manager and back to a Weaver - I don't know if any of the addresses are of any use to you ...but I can tell you they are mentioned in Great Harwood Historical Society the middle 2 records were supplied by them ...
maybe get in touch with them ?
ADDED
have a look through this to see if anyone is researching Pickering
http://www.great-harwood.org.uk/about/people/Family%20History/emails.htm
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Hi garstonite,
That’s a different Emmanuel and Annie.
In 1901 there are two couples
Emmanuel and Mary Hannah - the one we are searching and
Emmanuel and Annie - he is the Mill Manager and father of those children.
Heywood
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ha ha - OK Heywood ...silly old custard me .. :o
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I was confused too when I saw them :)
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Thank you all for your suggestions and help. 100% for sure my family inthe 1901 census was Emmanuel Pickering, Mary Hannah Pickering and their 4 children, George, Robert, Mary and Rebecca(my husband’s Grandmother. On the children’s baptism records it gave parents name as Emmanuel and Annie Pickering (formerly Barnes). My Emmanuel died in 1909 in the workhouse and is buried in Blackburn cemetery. Robert and George Pickering lived in Oswaldtwistle after the war and Annie Pickering. Just trying to find when she died and where she is buried.
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Glad to see you back Sue.
Do you have any thoughts re Annie Pickering /Thomas Tierney?
I posted that information as I thought it could be relevant because of the Royton connection; the Barnes connection and the marriage name.
1871 Mary Hannah Booth b Royton living with the Barnes family
1881 -ditto-
No trace thereafter of Mary H Booth (I don’t think)
1891 - Annie Pickering born Royton but married to James, of whom there seems to be no trace before or after.
1901 -Mary Hannah Pickering b Royton with Emmanuel
1911- Annie Tierney b Royton with Thomas
1919 marriage Thomas Tierney and Annie Pickering
1939 Mary H Tierney
Possible death of Thomas Tierney in 1941 but unfortunately Mary Hannah/Annie doesn’t seem obvious and this is the information you seek.
I accept it may not be relevant but I thought it worth some consideration or at least an acknowledgement. I was quite excited to see the possibilities. :o
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Heywood,
I very much appreciate all your efforts and suggestions. I didn’t acknowledge sooner as I have been away from my computer out of the city for a few days. No phones, social media etc. This week I will review your new information and advise. Please again my most sincere thanks to you and everyone for the help as I am trying so hard.
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No problem. It was just that you had posted earlier today and I didn’t want you to miss the info I had posted. :)
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Baptism: 10 Mar 1895 St Philip, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Elsie Mary Pickering - Daughter of Emmanuel Pickering & Annie
Born: 12 Feb 1895
Abode: Russell Place Great Harwood
Occupation: manager
Baptised by: J. O. Pinck
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Baptism: 31 Jan 1897 St Bartholomew, Great Harwood, Lancashire, England
Cyril John Pickering - Son of Emmanuel Pickering & Annie
Born: 21 Dec 1896
Abode: 2 Railway View
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Baptism: 5 Jun 1898 St Bartholomew, Great Harwood, Lancashire, England
Walter Norman Pickering - Son of Emmanuel Pickering & Annie
Born: 8 May 1898
Abode: 2 Railway View
Occupation: Mill Manager
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Baptism: 14 Oct 1900 St Paul, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Herbert Pickering - [Child] of Emmanuel Pickering & Ann
Born: 5 Aug 1900
Abode: 6 Alma St.
Occupation: Weaver
looks like he was demoted as Mill Manager and back to a Weaver - I don't know if any of the addresses are of any use to you ...but I can tell you they are mentioned in Great Harwood Historical Society the middle 2 records were supplied by them ...
maybe get in touch with them ?
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have a look through this to see if anyone is researching Pickering
http://www.great-harwood.org.uk/about/people/Family%20History/emails.htm
First 3 were children of Emmanuel Pickering, mill manager and his wife Annie Waring, formerly school teacher. Marriage 31st Jan. 1894 St. Mark the Evangelist, Witton. Emmanuel was 28, Annie 27. Emmanuel's father was John Pickering, draper. (LAN OPC) Births registered in Great Harwood sub district, mother's maiden name Waring. (Lancashire BMD)
Herbert Pickering's parents, Emmanuel and Ann, married at St. Paul, Blackburn 19th April 1900. Emmanuel was 28, a weaver, bachelor, abode Alma St. His bride, Ann Hodgson was 23, also a weaver, spinster, abode Johnston St. Emmanuel's father was Thomas Pickering, deceased, spinner. LAN OPC) Herbert's birth was registered Blackburn 1900. (Lancashire BMD) I couldn't find any other children of this marriage.
Death of an Emmanuel Pickering aged 53 was registered in Blackburn Southern sub district 1909.
An alternative spelling of Emmanuel is Immanuel. Oswaldtwistle parish church is Immanuel.
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After reviewing all your suggestions, I think that maybe the Barnes tip from the 1871 Census maybe a good area to search further!!
Also again I'm asking for opinions and advice, I know 100% for sure my Emmanuel Pickering died in a workhouse in 1909 and is buried in Blackburn Cemetery, so assume there was a Blackburn workhouse. To refresh the story of this family, from newspaper reports the 4 children were taken from the parents in 1906 and sent to a workhouse. From 1906 to 1909 at some point Emmanuel ends up in a workhouse and dies there. So, what happened to Annie Pickering (Mary Hannah)? Did she go into the workhouse to. Maybe I can find a way to search the Blackburn workhouse records for admissions?
Next and please bear with me, the youngest child, Rebecca Pickering born in 1900 (my husband's Grandmother) after being sent to Canada in 1913 with her sister Mary, years later in 1927 returns to Oswaldtwistle with her 2 children, Dorothy Mae (Husband's mother) and her son Robert Johnston after marrying in Canada. When they arrive, they stay with Rebecca's brother Robert and work in the cotton mill as weavers but live in Oswaldtwistle,.until after the until after the war (date not confirmed). My husband's Mum who is 94 remembers a lady she called Grandma Pickering (Annie). She can't remember what year they returned to Canada, after the war 1945-1950 but when she left, she is adamant that Grandma Pickering was still alive.
I found Rebecca Pickering and her son Robert on the 1939 National Register living at 1 Walkden Cottages, Oswaldtwistle her married name was now Johnston (1st husband) 2nd (Miller ) but no mention of Dorothy Mae (husband's Mum) and a few doors down the Uncle Robert Johnston lives at 7 Walkden Cottages with his wife. If Annie was still alive in Oswaldtwistle around the 1940's and her DOB was around 1865 she would have been in her 80's, so how many Annie's could there have been living in Oswaldtwistle?? I am going to try and find the workhouse in Blackburn and see if I can request a records check if possible, check cemetery records, and try working back.
Again thank you for all the support and suggestions. I need a few days to review all your information and again I will be away over the weekend, but come Monday morning I will be back at it.
You are all lovely, kind people, so keeping my fingers crossed I will not give up. You have all given me a boost of energy to get back it and keep searching.
Have a wonderful weekend!!!
Cheers,
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Hey there I am so sorry! I'm not used to using sites like this and I didn't realise what I had to do! If there's anyway we can still speak I'm still in full contact with all direct decendants of John Durkin, our family home is rich with tokens from the families past and my grandmother is still living!(John's wife) would love to connect, please try to reply! Search for me on Facebook if you have to!
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After reviewing all your suggestions, I think that maybe the Barnes tip from the 1871 Census maybe a good area to search further!!
Also again I'm asking for opinions and advice, I know 100% for sure my Emmanuel Pickering died in a workhouse in 1909 and is buried in Blackburn Cemetery, so assume there was a Blackburn workhouse. To refresh the story of this family, from newspaper reports the 4 children were taken from the parents in 1906 and sent to a workhouse. From 1906 to 1909 at some point Emmanuel ends up in a workhouse and dies there. So, what happened to Annie Pickering (Mary Hannah)? Did she go into the workhouse to. Maybe I can find a way to search the Blackburn workhouse records for admissions?
Next and please bear with me, the youngest child, Rebecca Pickering born in 1900 (my husband's Grandmother) after being sent to Canada in 1913 with her sister Mary, years later in 1927 returns to Oswaldtwistle with her 2 children, Dorothy Mae (Husband's mother) and her son Robert Johnston after marrying in Canada. When they arrive, they stay with Rebecca's brother Robert and work in the cotton mill as weavers but live in Oswaldtwistle,.until after the until after the war (date not confirmed). My husband's Mum who is 94 remembers a lady she called Grandma Pickering (Annie). She can't remember what year they returned to Canada, after the war 1945-1950 but when she left, she is adamant that Grandma Pickering was still alive.
I found Rebecca Pickering and her son Robert on the 1939 National Register living at 1 Walkden Cottages, Oswaldtwistle her married name was now Johnston (1st husband) 2nd (Miller ) but no mention of Dorothy Mae (husband's Mum) and a few doors down the Uncle Robert Johnston lives at 7 Walkden Cottages with his wife. If Annie was still alive in Oswaldtwistle around the 1940's and her DOB was around 1865 she would have been in her 80's, so how many Annie's could there have been living in Oswaldtwistle?? I am going to try and find the workhouse in Blackburn and see if I can request a records check if possible, check cemetery records, and try working back.
Again thank you for all the support and suggestions. I need a few days to review all your information and again I will be away over the weekend, but come Monday morning I will be back at it.
You are all lovely, kind people, so keeping my fingers crossed I will not give up. You have all given me a boost of energy to get back it and keep searching.
Have a wonderful weekend!!!
Cheers,
There is one redacted ( obscured) entry showing on the household of Rebecca Johnston/Miller in 1939. This will presumably be Dorothy Mae who was born less than 100 years ago and is still alive. Rebecca Miller returned to Canada in 1948 according to shipping records. Dorothy Mae, now W following 194o's marriage, is on the same sailing with young baby daughter, both have previous addresses in Blackburn.
Isobel
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Just a couple of things,
I would look at the Tierney/Pickering marriage - even if only to eliminate from the search. It may be just coincidental that Annie/Mary H is born in Royton in the appropriate quarter as Mary H Booth but you never know.
When the Johnston family arrived in 1927 they were going to 49 Crabtree Street Blackburn. This is nearer the addresses of the Tierneys from 1911 and 1939 and indeed you are only looking at 3 or 4 miles between Oswaldtwistle and the Blackburn address.
Heywood
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There is another possible for Mary Hannah Barnes. Born 1864 in Oldham mmn Ogden. Appears in 1871 census with parents Isiah And Elizabeth nee Ogden and sister Miriam ( born 1857). A few trees for Miriam on Ancestry. Miriam married in 1883 at St Thomas, Werneth and Mary Hannah was a witness. Isiah and Elizabeth are on their own by 1891.
Isobel
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I did look at her but she is not born Royton and the lady I am hoping is her shows Royton.
There is a marriage 1884 for Mary H Barnes and John W Matley at St Thomas, Werneth that I had assumed was her but have not checked the record.
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Just had a look and yes the marriage is her - the witness is Miriam Oates.
So that lady is not ours.
The birthdate in 1939 matches the quarter for Mary H Booth mmn Booth.
There is no baptism at St Paul’s Royton for this child in 1865 -there is a different Mary Booth which is not her.
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What about this death: 1947 Anne Pickering, Oswaldtwistle? (Lancashire BMD)
Edit. She may be buried at Accrington Cemetery or in a churchyard in Oswaldtwistle or Accrington. Only Accrington Cemetery records on LAN OPC are from 19thC.
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That certainly looks like her. Registered June quarter 1947 in Darwen,Lancashire, age 82.
Isobel
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The Annie Pickering that died in 1947, I originally thought was my Annie. I got her death record and it said her Father was William Pickering, deceased but my Annie's maiden name according to the baptism records for her children was Barnes. What also was strange, her sister Sara Barnes was the informant at the time of her death. When I saw Barnes I thought at first I found my Annie, but Barnes, was her sister's married name. The sister's maiden names would be Barnes.
Again I am away for a few days from my research, but will continue and advise after really looking at Heywood's tip of Mary Hannah Barnes born 1864-Oldham, the census record in 1871 and also try and speak with my 93 years old Mother-in-law for hopefully some information if she can remember.
Cheers to all my kind, lovely helpers!!!
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The Annie Pickering that died in 1947, I originally thought was my Annie. I got her death record and it said her Father was William Pickering, deceased but my Annie's maiden name according to the baptism records for her children was Barnes. What also was strange, her sister Sara Barnes was the informant at the time of her death. When I saw Barnes I thought at first I found my Annie, but Barnes, was her sister's married name. The sister's maiden names would be Barnes.
Was it usual to state father's name on English death certificate of a woman of 82? Did the death certificate have her marital state?
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I realise now that the Annie who died in 1947 is the unmarried one found living with her sisters in Oswaldtwistle in 1911 and 1939 ( see my reply #4 above).
Isobel
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There were a lot of women called Ann Pickering or with Ann as middle name in the Blackburn area.
Barnes is another common name. I have some.
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Hey there I am so sorry! I'm not used to using sites like this and I didn't realise what I had to do! If there's anyway we can still speak I'm still in full contact with all direct decendants of John Durkin, our family home is rich with tokens from the families past and my grandmother is still living!(John's wife) would love to connect, please try to reply! Search for me on Facebook if you have to!
Hello Sean and welcome to RootsChat. You appear to have posted on the wrong thread but I see from your profile that you found the right one. I was scratching my head trying to figure out how John Durkin fitted in here. ??? We're befuddled enough already on this thread. On the other hand, when I read your post I thought you might have the answers we seek.
There's a personal messaging option. You can use it after making 3 posts.
There's a help section explaining how to do things. If you don't understand something just ask and someone will reply.
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I had this weekend to speak with my Mother-in-law who is 93 and try to see what she could remember about her Grandmother, Annie Pickering, Mary Hannah Pickering, Barnes whatever!!
She could only tell me for sure that Annie lived in Blackburn and in the late 1930's early 1940's she would visit Grandma Pickering in Blackburn when they went to Market. At this time when Rebecca returned to England from Canada with my Mother-in-law to live near her brother Robert, they lived in Duckworth Hall village and I found them on the National Register living at #1 Walkden Cottages, Rebecca, son Robert and daughter entry redacted, the brother at #7 Walkden Cottages, Robert and Rosalia Pickering. They returned to Canada in 1948 and she thinks that her Grandmother had passed away but can't be sure. "She always had lots of cats in her home!!!"
I have given up as I'm just going around and around and can't verify anything more, so to end my request for help I again want to thank everyone who took time to check records and offer suggestions. I can a hard lesson for me, but some stones are better left unturned.
Cheers and wishing you all the best in your research efforts.
Susan
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Hi Sue,
It is not my family but if it were I would still want to check Annie Pickering from Royton before giving up. It might be just coincidence I accept but ... it niggles away at me ;)
All good wishes
Heywood
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A Mary H Tierney age 74 died in 1941 in Darwen, Lancashire. No sign of any Tierneys in Darwen in 1939. Close enough to both Blackburn and Oswaldtwistle to be possible and around correct age.
Isobel
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A Mary H Tierney age 74 died in 1941 in Darwen, Lancashire. No sign of any Tierneys in Darwen in 1939. Close enough to both Blackburn and Oswaldtwistle to be possible and around correct age.
Isobel
Thanks Isobel :)
I had searched and only found the Hannah S which I knew was wrong.
Lancashire BMD has the two and I hadn’t noticed. ::)
Mary Hannah Tierney 74 yrs Oswaldtwistle sub district :)
I feel the need to check the information posted earlier.
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Just reposting the info. I hope Sue has not given up yet.
Glad to see you back Sue.
Do you have any thoughts re Annie Pickering /Thomas Tierney?
I posted that information as I thought it could be relevant because of the Royton connection; the Barnes connection and the marriage name.
1871 Mary Hannah Booth b Royton living with the Barnes family
1881 -ditto-
No trace thereafter of Mary H Booth (I don’t think)
1891 - Annie Pickering born Royton but married to James, of whom there seems to be no trace before or after.
1901 -Mary Hannah Pickering b Royton with Emmanuel
1911- Annie Tierney b Royton with Thomas
1919 marriage Thomas Tierney and Annie Pickering
1939 Mary H Tierney
Possible death of Thomas Tierney in 1941 but unfortunately Mary Hannah/Annie doesn’t seem obvious and this is the information you seek.
I accept it may not be relevant but I thought it worth some consideration or at least an acknowledgement. I was quite excited to see the possibilities. :o
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Looks very likely to be her. Certainly worth checking out. The Booth grandchild is a puzzle as that Barnes couple only seem to have had sons.
Isobel
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In the next census though she is described as a lodger.
St Paul’s Royton baptisms are online and I can’t see one for her so it looks as though a birth certificate is needed to find her mother.
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Ha ha. You both lifted my descouraged spirit and I’m back in the game. I will get the death record for Tierney and see who the informant is. If it was either of her 2 sons George or Robert Pickering I will be doing the happy dance. I will advise. Just need time to get the record👍😄
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Bear in mind it, she may have died in a hospital so you may have no family member.
The marriage as Annie Pickering might be worth getting too.
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I am also wondering if the "Booth" Grandchild, was from a daughter who married a Booth then died and the Grandparents were raising the young girl? I have been so wrapped up in the Barnes and Pickering names, I never thought that Annie (Mary Hannah) could have married later in life to this Thomas Tierney man. I have a very strong feeling that she never married Emmanuel Pickering but used his name when the children came along for the Baptism records??
Like I mentioned before I will have to order these records and it takes a few weeks to reach me in Canada, but I'm going to really have to be more open to a marriage name later in life, and death. My Mother-in-law is adamant that she lived in Blackburn so I can't imagine she didn't move around too far from her 2 sons and Rebecca who lived and worked in the Mill in Oswaldtwistle. Stay tuned lovely people!!!! You are amazing to help me this much!!
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I had thought that Oswaldtwistle death registrations would be Blackburn but when Isobel found that death and I checked Lancashire BMD I saw that the death registration was Oswaldtwistle. Hopefully with son Robert living there, that might be the connection.
The Barnes had no daughters. I wondered if a son might have fathered the child then something went wrong.
Mary Barnes was a King before marriage but I can’t see any marriages with King/Booth or Barnes.
Mary H could be just a child they took in and the enumerator thought they were grandparents or they felt that connection.
The son living at home was married at St Paul’s, the local church, but I can’t see a baptism there.
If she is your Annie, it seems strange that she and Emmanuel didn’t marry.
I do hope all turns out right and that she is the correct woman.
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What about electoral registers? All women were eligible to vote after 1928.
Are you a member of Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society? If so, you can check if another member is researching any of the surnames and you can post an enquiry on their forum. FH&HS has a research centre in Oswaldtwistle.
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What about electoral registers? All women were eligible to vote after 1928.
Are you a member of Lancashire Family History & Heraldry Society? If so, you can check if another member is researching any of the surnames and you can post an enquiry on their forum. FH&HS has a research centre in Oswaldtwistle.
If this is the right woman, she is ‘married’ in Blackburn in 1911 and then after a later marriage ceremony is in Blackburn in 1939.
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BOOTH, MARY HANNAH
no mother maiden name listed
Q1 1865 OLDHAM Volume 08D Page 581
Might be interesting.
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Mabel that is the one we have - living with the Barnes family in 1871 and 1881.