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I'm looking for info on my Grandmother Elizabeth Sarah Jones born born in Battersea in 1906. Her Dad was John Jones who we believe was of Romany descent. They had lived in Alfred St Battersea. Members of their immediate circle were the Hays, Aunt Polly, Rosie Hays, Aunt Ivy, Uncle Herbert, Billy Jones, George Jones, Tilly Hays, Aunt May They all used to go hopping at Paddock Wood. It would be great if anyone can recognise them.
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
The birth of Elizabeth Sarah Jones was registered Dec qtr 1906 Wandsworth, mother’s maiden name Lovett.
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In context with possible siblings:
William John Lovett, Jun qtr 1888 Wandsworth (baptised as John William Jones, born 27 Apr 1888)
George Henry Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Mar qtr 1891 Wandsworth (born 31 Dec 1890)
Anne Clara Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Mar qtr 1893 Wandsworth
Mary Emily Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Mar qtr 1895 Wandsworth
William Charles Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Dec qtr 1896 Wandsworth
George Edward Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Dec qtr 1898 Wandsworth
Sidney Alfred Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Mar qtr 1900 Camberwell
Joseph Edward Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Sep qtr 1902 Wandsworth
Susan Alice Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Sep qtr 1904 Wandsworth (died Sep qtr 1905 aged 1)
Elizabeth Sarah Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Dec qtr 1906 Wandsworth <<<
Walter Sidney Jones, mother’s maiden name Lovett, Jun qtr 1909 Wandsworth (died Jun qtr 1911 aged 2)
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There's a marriage for Henry George Jones & Sarah Ann Lovett in 1889, Wandsworth. I've found Sarah in Battersea in 1911, with a daughter Sarah the right age (no husband at home)
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1901 - 4 Sultan St Camberwell
Henry Jones 38 - b Battersea, carman
Sarah Jones 37 - b Battersea,
John Jones 13 - b Battersea,
Henry Jones 11 - b Battersea,
Mary Jones 6 - b Battersea,
William Jones 4 - b Balham,
Geo Jones 2 - b Balham
Alfred Jones 8/12 - b Camberwell
RG12, 433. 123, 36
1891 - 43 Barmore St Battersea
Henry G Jones 26 - general labourer
Sarah A Jones 26
William J Jones 3
Henry W Jones 4/12
RG13, 515, 78, 37
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Henry George Jones, 11 Ashtons Buildings, gardener age25
Father: John Jones, labourer (deceased)
Sarah Ann Lovett, 11 Ashtons Buildings, spinster, 23,
Father George Henry Lovett, labourer (deceased)
Marriage 23 Nov 1889, St Mary, Battersea
Witnesses J Lovett and James Spice
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To clear up the additional children on the census
LOVETT, WILLIAM JOHN
mmn not listed
Q1 1888 WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 720
JONES, SIDNEY ALFRED
mmn LOVETT
Q3 1900 CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 980
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To clear up the additional children on the census
LOVETT, WILLIAM JOHN
mmn not listed
Q1 1888 WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 720
JONES, SIDNEY ALFRED
mmn LOVETT
Q3 1900 CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 980
Ah yes - will add them in to the list.
William John was baptised on 8 Feb 1891 as John William Jones, birthdate 27 Apr 1888 (together with George Henry whose birthdate was 31 Dec 1890).
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Looking back to Henry and Sarah, I can;t find obvious romany links. John Jones is a labourer from Cardiff. George Lovett a labourer who appears to come from a line of wood cutters
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Members of their immediate circle were the Hays, Aunt Polly, Rosie Hays, Aunt Ivy, Uncle Herbert, Billy Jones, George Jones, Tilly Hays, Aunt May
Were these people referred to as Aunt/Uncle by your Grandmother?
This looks like the only birth for a Herbert in the area from 1860 to 1980:
Births September quarter 1873
Herbert Bosworth Hays Marylebone 1a 578
He is a music publisher and fairly easier to track with a variety of different entries on Ancestry.
Or is he a Herbert Jones? and is 'Aunt May' a Jones or a Hays, by birth or by marriage (to who?)