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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: BradleyJSargent on Wednesday 25 July 18 14:33 BST (UK)
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Good afternoon,
I hope anyone can help!
I'm currently researching my family tree and am struggling to find information on the Montgomerys and Porters of Maghera (and potentially the surrounding area)
Here's what I have -
David Montgomery (of Craigmore in 1901 census and Grillagh in 1911) Born 1866 - ?
MARRIED TO
Mary Ann Montgomery (of Craigmore in 1901* census and Grillagh in 1911) Born 1865 - ?
*spelt Mary Ane Montgomery in 1901 however I'm assuming its the same person!
1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Maghera/Craigmore/1545064/
1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Maghera/Grillagh/611258/
They had a number of children - James (1890 - ?) Hugh (1892 - ?) Mary Ann (1906 - ?) and
David Montgomery (1900 - 1953) person of particular interest is he is my great grandfather - I know very little other than he is present on both of the above mentioned census records aged 1 and 11
David married Eva Porter (1910 - 1942) , my great grandmother and another person of great interest - who again, unfortunately, I have very little information on - I do know that Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958 has a record of 'Evelyn Porter' born 1910 and Maghera Presbyterian Church has a record of 'Eva Montgomery' of Knocknakielt buried Saturday August 01 1942 aged 31. Additionally, Evelyn Porter is listed under the 1911 census aged 6 months as a resident of Knocknekielt, Maghera - I think its a pretty safe assumption that all these records refer to the same person.
Maghera Presbyterian Church Burial Record
http://magheragenealogy.org/maghera-presbyterian-burial-register/
1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Maghera/Knocknakielt/611556/
The 1911 census record containing a 6 month old Evelyn reveals her mother to be Mary Jane Porter (Approx 1861 - ?) of Knocknakielt, Maghera - both the 1911 census record and the 1901 census record show Mary Jane Porter to be a widow and I can find no record of any husband pre 1901 and is also making me wonder whether Evelyn / Eva's maiden name was even Porter!
1901 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Maghera/Knocknakielt/1545454/
Any information, leads or links anyone can provide to help me find more information on the above persons, including their parents / children (Evelyn for example had a number of brothers and sisters I've not referenced) would be greatly appreciated.
Bradley
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Can you post LINKS to them on Census??
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CIVIL REG Birth, Marriage and Death results for Montgomery of Magherafelt district
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mem/
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Can you post LINKS to them on Census??
Of course, apologies! I've updated the original post with the links.
Thanks
Bradley
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Firstly,
All Irish civil registrations are available on (From 1864 onwards) (Births shown up to 1916, deaths up to 1966, and marriages up to 1941) - however as the area you are looking for is Northern Ireland, recored will only be available on this site until 1921
This site is free to use
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
After 1922, use the GRONI site
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/go-groni-online
Searching is free on GRONI, but viewing the certificate with detail is about £2.50
And to start you off:
Evelyn Porters birth certificate - mother Annie Mary Porter a domestic servant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01553/1628111.pdf
So Evelyn is actually a granddaughter of Mary Jane and not daughter as listed in the census
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Good afternoon,
I hope anyone can help!
David Montgomery (of Craigmore in 1901 census and Grillagh in 1911) Born 1866 - ?
MARRIED TO
Mary Ann Montgomery (of Craigmore in 1901* census and Grillagh in 1911) Born 1865 - ?
*spelt Mary Ane Montgomery in 1901 however I'm assuming its the same person!
Bradley
Don't see a registration for it..
Marriage results for David Montgomery http://www.rootschat.com/links/01meo/
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22 years married in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Maghera/Grillagh/611258/
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I have looked up the births for some of Evelyns sisters
Agnes was born to William John Porter and Mary Jane Porter (nee Watterson)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02143/1813784.pdf
William died in 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05775/4632829.pdf
As Samuel on the 1911 census also seems to have been born after Williams death, I looked for his birth also, but couldn't find it.
There is however an Albert born in 1903 to Mary Jane Porter nee Matterson. (No father listed) so I suspect this is Samuel?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01862/1725715.pdf
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Can you post LINKS to them on Census??
Of course, apologies! I've updated the original post with the links.
Thanks
Bradley
Yes, it helps!
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David Montgomerys Birth certificate
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02033/1779425.pdf
Born to David Montgomery and Mary Ann Kane
Possible wedding of David Montgomery and Mary Kane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10774/5929274.pdf
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The links I have posted should help you trace more of this family, and to get back further than the civil registrations some useful sources are
Parish records
Tells you what records are available where:
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/church.php?civilparishid=738&civilparish=Magherafelt&search_type=full
Also Griffith valuation of Ireland shows the landowner and occupiers in about 1850/60's
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
This Land can be traced via the valuation revision books
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/searching-valuation-revision-books
Also, Wills are available to search online for Northern Ireland at
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Some have images, for post 1900 wills - the records are all available in person at the public records office in Belfast
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David Montgomerys Birth certificate
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02033/1779425.pdf
Born to David Montgomery and Mary Ann Kane
Possible wedding of David Montgomery and Mary Kane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10774/5929274.pdf
I only looked for
David Montgomery
MARRIED TO
Mary Ann Montgomery
;D
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Many thanks both @hallmark and @Cwellan CoDown for all your helpd.
This info has been highly enlightening! I'll review all the links this evening :)
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You can study them via Links at your leisure, can be very rewarding although not all have Images online yet!
On irishgenealogy.ie you'll Unknowns but the Index was used.... full information will be on Image!!
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There were no father's details provided for Evelyn Porter in the record of marriage to David Montgomery in 1930 (only the groom's father's details were provided), consistent with her illegitimate birth to Annie Mary Porter previously posted at Reply #4.
The birth registration for Evelyn's mother, Annie Mary Porter, in 1892:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02362/1882426.pdf
The marriage of Annie Mary Porter's parents, William John Porter and Mary Jane Waterson, in 1881:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11000/8021803.pdf
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Annie Mary Porter went on to marry Robert Bradley in 1915:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09810/5561837.pdf
A son Robert James Bradley was born to the couple later that year:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01371/1565172.pdf
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Just a possibility for the birth of David Montgomery senior, the location and timeframe are reasonable, as are the father's details as per the 1888 marriage to Mary Anne Kane:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03589/2323216.pdf
A possible marriage for the parents of the above David Montgomery took place in a Presbyterian church in Maghera parish on 9 October 1857 between Robert Montgomery and Jane McCracken of Carricknakielt, 24 year old bachelor Robert was a servant, the son of John Montgomery a farmer, 21 year old spinster Jane was the daughter of James McCracken, a butcher, a Hugh Bradley and William Long were the witnesses.