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Title: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: wilcoxon on Wednesday 25 July 18 19:00 BST (UK)
 I have a man who in 1881 is described as architect and surveyor and surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Does this mean he was checking the churches.
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: arthurk on Wednesday 25 July 18 19:52 BST (UK)
Possibly. In England in the late 20th century or thereabouts each diocese had a surveyor, who usually had their own practice but would work for the diocese as required. However, this was on buildings for which the diocese was responsible, ie parsonages and diocesan offices. Individual churches made their own arrangements, and wouldn't necessarily use the diocesan surveyor. I've no idea how much this would have applied to Wales in the 1880s, but it might give you a bit of a feel for how things have been done in the past.

Presumably you know your chap's name? One thing you could do is have a look at the records of the Incorporated Church Building Society on the Lambeth Palace Library website - http://images.lambethpalacelibrary.org.uk/luna/servlet/LPLIBLPL~34~34
Using the advanced search, you might be able to find out if he put his name to any of the plans that are online.
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 26 July 18 07:02 BST (UK)
Thanks
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 26 July 18 08:51 BST (UK)
From the Flintshire Observer Mining Journal and General Advertiser for the Counties of Flint Denbigh 4th August 1882 http://newspapers.library.wales/
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 26 July 18 09:16 BST (UK)
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3751321/3751329/101/

he got the job, but cant find any mention of when.
Thanks .
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 26 July 18 09:23 BST (UK)
Quote from: wilcoxon on Thursday 26 July 18 09:16 BST (UK)
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3751321/3751329/101/

he got the job, but cant find any mention of when.
Thanks .

I see that his son was named after his father in law  :)
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: GrahamSimons on Thursday 26 July 18 09:47 BST (UK)
You could investigate in the Diocesan archives:
https://archives.library.wales/index.php/diocese-of-st-asaph-records
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 26 July 18 10:02 BST (UK)
Quote from: wilcoxon on Thursday 26 July 18 09:16 BST (UK)
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3751321/3751329/101/

he got the job, but cant find any mention of when.
Thanks .
The newspaper extract for 30th August 1883 only reports the exam results of his son E. Francis Jones, not that he got the job. The report 4th August 1882 says that the post would soon become vacant.

Stan
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 26 July 18 10:22 BST (UK)
Deleted got my facts wrong

Stan
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: arthurk on Thursday 26 July 18 11:03 BST (UK)
Going back to the church plans, there's one which might possibly be his:

http://images.lambethpalacelibrary.org.uk/luna/servlet/s/x4d476

It's said to be possibly by Edward Jones, who was known to be working in Montgomeryshire in 1864-79 - that would be part of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Title: Re: surveyor of the Diocese of St Asaph.
Post by: wilcoxon on Thursday 26 July 18 11:33 BST (UK)
Interesting