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Title: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Aulus on Friday 27 July 18 09:25 BST (UK)
I noticed an email from Findmypast to say they have added Lancashire baptisms, marriages and burials.

Does anyone know if this is just the selection of registers (just the microfilmed ones, I think) that Ancestry has had for ages, or have findmypast been to Lancashire Archives to scan registers that Ancestry doesn't have?

Apologies if this has been asked already: I did look, but couldn't see any posts on this board.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Jebber on Friday 27 July 18 09:29 BST (UK)
If you go to the A to Z list type in Lancashire and it will show you just what they have.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Aulus on Friday 27 July 18 09:53 BST (UK)
If you go to the A to Z list type in Lancashire and it will show you just what they have.

Thanks.  Yes I know that, and I did that, and it looks similar to Ancestry's selection, which I think (but am willing to be corrected) is largely the registers at Lancashire Archives that have been microfilmed (mainly by LDS a few decades ago). I've not specifically checked for a while, but originally Ancestry didn't have any of the registers that are only on microfiche or uncopied at LA.

 I was wondering if there are any new-to-the-internet records, in the same way that FindMyPast's Manchester Collection contains lots of newly scanned (they were new when FindMyPast released them) records.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Blue70 on Friday 27 July 18 10:50 BST (UK)
You can see all the batches here:-

https://search.findmypast.com/results/world-images/lancashire-parish-registers-browse


Blue
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Pennines on Friday 27 July 18 14:22 BST (UK)
Aulus -- you possibly know this -- but just in case you don't -- some registers of what I consider to be Lancashire are on Ancestry under their Manchester collection. (Not the cathedral -- just within the ordinary Manchester baptisms, marriages and burials).

Such places as;
Bolton and surrounding areas
Bury and surrounding areas, including Tottington)
Rossendale parishes (Goodshaw, Newchurch, Waterfoot for example)
Rochdale and areas including Heywood and Norden.

My apologies if you knew this -- but I thought it better to be safe than sorry!
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Aulus on Friday 27 July 18 21:28 BST (UK)
Answering my own question, in case anyone's interested.

I asked Lancashire Archives, who confirmed that the Findmypast collection does include some additional material over what's on Ancestry, scanned from some of LA's more recent microfilms.

So it will be a matter of adding Findmypast to the list of sites to check for those harder to find people.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 27 July 18 21:29 BST (UK)
Rossendale in the Manchester collection? How dare they!
Seriously, thanks for that information.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 28 July 18 09:27 BST (UK)
Maiden Stone --- Yes I know, that's how I feel about those --- AND the others actually -- it's an insult -- Manchester are taking over my county!
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: ainslie on Saturday 28 July 18 14:39 BST (UK)
It seems likely that these ‘new’ Lancs data are taken from the printed volumes produced over many years by the Lancashire Parish Register Society.  They cover many but not all of the ancient parishes, and are transcriptions, not images, from original registers, with notes made by the transcribers.
Big libraries in the county should have a set of these books, in local or-reference sections.
Can anyone confirm this?
A
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Saturday 28 July 18 15:28 BST (UK)
Looking for anyone in Lancashire - including most of Manchester  - don't forget the "Lancashire Parish clerks online" - just type it in, search and enjoy!
It's been a wonderful resource for my lot!
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: ainslie on Saturday 28 July 18 15:35 BST (UK)
Yes indeed, should have mentioned them.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 28 July 18 15:42 BST (UK)
Yes Threlfall Yorky -- Lancs OPC is such a boon and all done by volunteers. Fantastic.

As a whole we are very lucky in Lancashire -- Lancashire BMD (from 1837) - is almost certainly the most comprehensive county BMD facility -- again all due to volunteers.

On Ancestry there are filmed Lancashire Parish Registers, filmed Manchester and surrounding districts registers - and filmed Liverpool ones as well.

With regard to the original query -- I may be wrong, but the Ancestry collection for Lancashire appears to be more comprehensive than the FindMyPast one at the moment -- and Ancestry are the filmed records. I appreciate that FindMyPast may just still be a 'work in progress' collection.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Blue70 on Saturday 28 July 18 17:53 BST (UK)
Family Search is useful too they have a lot of records for the Liverpool area of the historic county of Lancashire links are available in RootsChat Lancs resources and on the Liverpool & SWL FHS forum. There are likely to be many record images for other parts of the historic county.


Blue
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: andrewalston on Thursday 02 August 18 09:10 BST (UK)
All the records I've looked at had associated images, though they don't seem to be from the exact same films used by Ancestry. Some seem to be copies of copies.

I looked for one marriage from my home town but it wasn't indexed. Using the reference from LancashireBMD, I browsed to the entry.

It was completely illegible, even though I knew what the names were. The equivalent image on Ancestry was perfectly fine.

Where there are transcriptions, they do seem better than Ancestry. For example a surname "TURNER" rather than "TARNES", reflecting the groom's signature rather than the clergyman's scrawl.

The coverage of parishes seems similar. No registers of Bolton or Warrington for example, though Ancestry does have the BTs for Warrington held by Lancashire Archives.

There are some registers which have been filmed more than once by Lancashire Archives. FindMyPast appear to have indexed both versions.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: frian on Thursday 23 August 18 13:11 BST (UK)
I've also been browsing through the Lancashire Parish Registers section of FindMyPast and found the burial registers for Lancaster Borough Cemetery.  Looks interesting and I will explore that one further.
FindMyPast also corrects some of Ancestry's errors - e.g. Ancestry have the marriage registers of Christ Church, Glasson Dock under Christ Church, Lancaster (but no marriages for the latter!)  FindMyPast differentiates the two - and we finally get the marriage registers of both parishes.  Also more registers for parishes in the Lune Valley.  It's worth having a look if you, like me, have many Lancashire connections.
frian
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Jane Lucas on Wednesday 12 September 18 14:00 BST (UK)
Aulus.. I've only just seen this from July, and I can see you know the answer. But I thought I'd let you know that my experience has been that FindMyPast have now added original images to what before were only transcripts. I don't know how widespread this has been. But for certain people I've been researching for ages, suddenly the original image is available.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Wednesday 12 September 18 14:07 BST (UK)
Do they have anything that Lancs Parish Clerks online doesn't have ... for free? that's a wonderful resource, it was that that got me started on looking into my family history.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Jane Lucas on Wednesday 12 September 18 14:19 BST (UK)
It is a wonderful resource, and often I find things on there I can't find anywhere else. But if that leads me to an original image, that is frequently more informative than any transcription. Just little differences in order of words/abbreviations changed slightly etc are enlightening. And sometimes, as a bonus, you even get occupation and place of residence, often not included in a transcription, though I must say Lanc OPC are very good at doing so.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 13 September 18 01:42 BST (UK)
I found a GGF + his  brother + their cousins in National School Admission Registers. At same school was  the elder brother of GGF's future wife. I couldn't find GGM or her sisters or GGF's sisters.
Title: Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
Post by: brigidmac on Thursday 13 September 18 05:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for posting this ...I will certainly be taking a look at the Lancashire collection before my visits to Manchester and Liverpool