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Title: translation please
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 28 July 18 18:11 BST (UK)
Can anyone translate these occupations from the 1911 census.
John  Henry  Wilde born 1865 England. It`s doubtful Alice is his "wife" as his real wife is still in England in 1911 saying she is married. The children are definitely his and he was an accountant in England.

Intriguing !
Title: Re: translation please
Post by: Viktoria on Saturday 28 July 18 19:01 BST (UK)
Plumber
Messenger
..Sorry can’t get this one
This looks like Caviere,which might be something to do with wine.
I might be completely wrong of course,hope this is some help.
                 Viktoria
Title: Re: translation please
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 28 July 18 19:14 BST (UK)
The one with 1909 isn't important, he's not related
Thanks
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Post by: DonM on Saturday 28 July 18 19:45 BST (UK)
Plumber
Messenger

Don
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Post by: Viktoria on Saturday 28 July 18 22:27 BST (UK)
Just looked at cellarman  in my French dictionary and it says caveist.
I think on the census you have it is Canadian French so it may be 
Cellarman.There are differences in Belgian French and French as spoken in
France so possibly also with Canadian French.
Viktoria.
Title: Re: translation please
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 28 July 18 23:03 BST (UK)
Thank you
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Post by: susano on Sunday 29 July 18 09:22 BST (UK)
The occupation for John Henry Wilde is comptable which means accounting in English. 

The entry for John is not shown on the part you posted.  It is the line above.

Son Thomas (16) is a plumber and Son Frederick (15) is a messenger.  I'm having difficulty making out the occupation of daughter Lillian (18).
Title: Re: translation please
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 29 July 18 09:41 BST (UK)
I think the last one is Concierge.
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Post by: susano on Sunday 29 July 18 10:23 BST (UK)
I think you're right, carol8353.

On a passenger list, I found a Lilian Wilde, age 46, occupation Accountant sailing from Montreal to Liverpool aboard the Duchess of Bedford, arriving July 8, 1939.  Destination address in the UK was 35 Owen Rd., Wolverhampton.  Possibly the daughter?

Susan
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Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 29 July 18 10:50 BST (UK)
On the free 1939 register there is a Lilian M Wilde b 1893 in Wolvehampton.
Looks like she later marries a Mr Simpson.

It says George H Wilde and 2 other people are at the same address.
Title: Re: translation please
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 29 July 18 15:02 BST (UK)
many thanks.
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Post by: Viktoria on Sunday 29 July 18 16:37 BST (UK)
How are you getting those occupations ?on what I can bring up I can not see their names so am working in the dark somewhat.
I can’t see a g as in concierge nor a p as in comptiere,am I looking at the right stuff?
Viktoria.
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Post by: leen on Sunday 29 July 18 16:41 BST (UK)
I think the last occupation is Caissière
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Post by: polarbear on Sunday 29 July 18 18:15 BST (UK)
Ah yes.....that would translate to Cashier.

PB
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Post by: Viktoria on Sunday 29 July 18 18:51 BST (UK)
I See that now, the first s is very faint at the top and looks open like a v.
Well done.
Viktoria.
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Post by: susano on Sunday 29 July 18 20:58 BST (UK)
Viktora,

I searched the family on the 1911 Canadian Census on the Automated Genealogy and Ancestry sites.

Susan 
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Post by: dbree on Monday 30 July 18 22:21 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think it is caissiere (cashier) also, and the other is palefrenier (stable worker)

Just beside the occupations, there are codes, the guide is here. Click on "continue to publication".

http://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2017/statcan/12-506/CS12-506-1911-eng.pdf

10-7-15 cashier office

2-9-22 groom/livery stable

All Canadian census' are also available free to view through Library and Archives Canada
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

1911 census for John Henry Wilde, click to enlarge
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e002064840.jpg

DB