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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: MacGrigor on Monday 30 July 18 16:04 BST (UK)
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Hello,
Can anyone view the marriage of John Provis and Mary Adlam? I'm hoping that John was living in Bremhill as it would tie to my family.
I'd appreciate any help!
Adam
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The marriage licence states that they were both of the parish of Warminster.
Emeltom
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That can't be mine then :( thanks for looking!
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That can't be mine then :( thanks for looking!
I don’t understand why you think this rules out your man?
The marriage record simply shows where they were resident at the time of the marriage, not where they originally came from.
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It doesn't rule it out, but I can hardly cite it in my reports as I cannot conclusively prove that these two are my ancestors, John and Mary Provis, as there is no reference to Bremhill, where the couple baptised my ancestor, William, in 1745.
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It doesn't rule it out, but I can hardly cite it in my reports
Quite right, but you said
That can't be mine then
which is slightly different!
I’m not trying to be awkward :) just pointing out that it’s an error to assume that a marriage record shows where someone hails from.
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We have covered this before; I fully recognise that a stated parish is not always where an individual was born, but had the Trowbridge marriage stated 'John Provis of Bremhill' then I would note it down, as John Provis did live in (but was not necessarily from) Bremhill, and this would fit.
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How many couples do you think there are called John Provis and Mary Adlam getting married in Wiltshire in 1737? Are you absolutely sure he was living in Bremhill before the marriage and if you are sure what evidence do you have to prove the fact?
Emeltom
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I don't know that her surname was Adlam, but it was the only marriage that fit. All I know is that a John and Mary Provis christened my ancestor in Bremhill in 1745. I was hoping that this marriage might be theirs and any mention of Bremhill in the record would confirm it.
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There is a puzzle here to be solved.
A John Provis of Warminster married Mary Adlam also of Warminster in 1737 in Trowbridge. They appear to have baptised children in Warminster:
William in 1737, Mary in 1741 and possibly John in 1745
Then there is a couple John & Mary Provis who were baptising children in Bremhill from 1745:
William in 1745, Charity in 1747 - are there any others?
What was the occupation of John who was father of William baptised in Bremhill?
John of Warminster may well have been the one who died in 1787 and was an innholder & victualler.
Nell
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I've never viewed original records from FamilySearch, only transcripts :(
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The John Provis that died in 1787, innholder and victualler left a Will. His estate went to his wife and children as follows
Wife: Jane ( Clarke) - John P remarried by licence and a widower in 1753.
Children:
Sons - Samuel, Joseph And William Proviss
Daughter: Jane wife of Thomas Stillman of Steeple Ashton
Daughter: Susanna wife of John Daniel of Warminster
Daughter: Mary wife of John Pearce of Upton Skidmore
Claire
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Thanks! There's no mention of William of Bremhill so presumably the two aren't connected.
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No there is so mention of Bremhill in the Will, just the bequest of £30 to my son William Proviss. Also, having just reread the Will, there was another son John.
Claire
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Yes, that is very helpful.
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After much searching what about this one
John Provost married Mary Spunley at Bremhill 4 January 1738
Emeltom
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That looks good to me! Thanks very much.
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Can you find any records for the pair prior to the marriage?
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Two possible baptisms on familysearch
John Provost 26 May 1717 Broad Hinton Thomas and Margaret
Mary Spunly 1 August Bremhill Rob. and Ruth
You could have found those yourself, the site s free to search.
Emeltom
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Thanks! I did search for them both on familysearch but couldn't find any :(
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Got back to Robert Spunley and Ruth Hort who married there in 1716, but I can't find any more on them. Can you find anything?
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Nothing that I can see.
Emeltom