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Title: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Tuesday 31 July 18 16:25 BST (UK)
I am coming back to this after several years of leaving it alone hoping something has appeared in the interim.  My gt. grandfather Albert Ernest Dargue died in Hull in 1938.  He died on January 1st at 5 Durham Street.  He had left his wife and family and had returned to the town of his birth with his new lady friend.  His children were told by their mother that he was dead after he left.  I expect this was to save face.

I have not been able to find out where he was buried or if he was cremated.

Could anyone please help close this search for me please.

Thanks

Jac
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 31 July 18 19:24 BST (UK)
I am coming back to this after several years of leaving it alone hoping something has appeared in the interim.

My gt. grandfather Albert Ernest Dargue died in Hull in 1938.  He died on January 1st at 5 Durham Street.

He had left his wife and family and had returned to the town of his birth with his new lady friend. 
His children were told by their mother that he was dead after he left.  I expect this was to save face.

I have not been able to find out where he was buried or if he was cremated.

Could anyone please help close this search for me please.


Do you know the name of the lady friend?

Could he have been buried with or near her?

Who was the informant on his death certificate?

Are there any cemeteries near to his home address? If so, perhaps you could email them with his name and date of death

Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Wednesday 01 August 18 19:00 BST (UK)
The informant on his death certificate is E. A Rosen who I think is the lady he ran off with.  This person lived at the same address. 

Thanks

Jac
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 01 August 18 19:30 BST (UK)
The informant on his death certificate is E. A Rosen who I think is the lady he ran off with.  This person lived at the same address. 


Would this be her death entry?

Elizabeth A Rosen died age 71
Jun 1951 Hull Volume: 2a Page:   276
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Wednesday 01 August 18 19:57 BST (UK)
It may be.  I am not sure at all but it looks possible.
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jksdelver on Thursday 02 August 18 08:20 BST (UK)
You could try :- His death record (burial or cremation) could be available from the Hull Cemeteries Chanterland Avenue office. Sorry I don’t know the full address.

As a matter of interest if the name Laeathly comes into it we will have a connection.
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Thursday 02 August 18 08:25 BST (UK)
Yes I have lots of Leathley in my tree.  Martha Ann Leathley (b. 1851) was Alberts mother.  She married Jacob Dargue.  I will contact Hull as soon as I can.

Thanks

JAc
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jksdelver on Thursday 02 August 18 08:58 BST (UK)
Yes that’s the same family. 


Yes I have lots of Leathley in my tree.  Martha Ann Leathley (b. 1851) was Alberts mother.  She married Jacob Dargue.  I will contact Hull as soon as I can.

Thanks

JAc
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Thursday 02 August 18 09:26 BST (UK)
How are you related to the Dargues?  Would be good to know.
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jksdelver on Thursday 02 August 18 09:33 BST (UK)
Albert Ernest is my 5th cousin 1 removed. Coming back to Morley and Woodkirk.


How are you related to the Dargues?  Would be good to know.
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jksdelver on Thursday 02 August 18 12:26 BST (UK)
Advice from a contact

If you join the Hull General cemetery group on Facebook you might come up with some answers

Others in the group may have known this family even if they were not buried in this cemetery
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 02 August 18 12:51 BST (UK)
You could try here...they have a help desk:

http://www.eyfhs.org.uk/eyfhs.org.uk/index.php/shop

Carol
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Thursday 02 August 18 16:24 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help

Jac
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Thursday 09 August 18 15:19 BST (UK)
Hi Jac,
My connection is also through the Leathley Family, I have quite a few MIs for Hull so I will look through them tonight and get back to you if I find him.
gogogadgetlegs
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Thursday 09 August 18 16:05 BST (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Sunday 12 August 18 10:06 BST (UK)
Looked through all the burial books i have nut not found a burial for him at all. Possible he was buried in an unmarked grave.
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Sunday 12 August 18 10:10 BST (UK)
Sorry I should have said that he has been found in the East Cemetery I think it is and is in a grave with others.  The grave was paid for in perpetuity but it does not have a headstone.  Thanks for your help though.

Jac
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Monday 13 August 18 10:51 BST (UK)
I think Albert Ernest Dargue burial not have must be in a book I do not have.

My connection to the Dargue family is through Mary Ellen Leathley Born 1853 Died 1935 Withernsea, who married Robert Drewery Andrew Born 1852 Hull Marr 1874 died 1942 Withernsea.

Phil (gogogadgetlegs)
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Monday 13 August 18 14:01 BST (UK)
hello,  I have her down as Mary Helen Leathley.  I do not have a birth certificate for her so not sure if I am wrong.

thanks

Jac
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Tuesday 14 August 18 13:37 BST (UK)
Hi Jac, Just down as Mary Ellen Leathley on marriage certificate.
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Tuesday 14 August 18 13:38 BST (UK)
Thank you

I will amend my records
I do not have a certificate.
Jac
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: gogogadgetlegs on Thursday 13 September 18 19:50 BST (UK)
Hi Jac, I have sent you a personal message,
Phil Andrew
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 13 September 18 20:42 BST (UK)
Buried at the Eastern Cemetery, Preston Road
4 January 1938
Albert Ernest Dargue (edited)
age 64
Labourer, of 5 Durham Street
Died 1 Jan
Cause - Bronchitis

Image here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGK-3SNK-4?i=240&cat=705068
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Thursday 13 September 18 20:44 BST (UK)
Thank you I have his death certificate.  He is Albert Ernest Dargue not Edward.


Jac
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 13 September 18 20:45 BST (UK)
Now you have his burial as well!
John
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Thursday 13 September 18 20:46 BST (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 13 September 18 20:58 BST (UK)
Sorry, did it too quickly! Have edited it. Albert Ernest.
John
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 13 September 18 21:06 BST (UK)
Throw in the Grave Ledger as well
Compartment 228
Grave 88 is on the bottom line, left hand page
Right above the "S"

1483 is Mr Dargue, other names mentioned include Rosen
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGG-1THZ?i=708&cat=705068
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jacqlineue on Thursday 13 September 18 21:07 BST (UK)
That is the lady who informed of death.  Thanks for this
Title: Re: Can't find a burial for Albert Ernest Dargue
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 13 September 18 21:10 BST (UK)
OK, her burial was 6749
Elizabeth Alice Rosen, died 17 April 1951, buried 20th.
Age 71
Image here (hope you can see these, you just need to be logged in as a free member)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSGK-3SN7-K?i=498&cat=705068

John