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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: PrawnCocktail on Thursday 02 August 18 11:58 BST (UK)
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Just saw a new button on FindMyPast toolbar - DNA
So I clicked it, and found their new page.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/ancestry-dna-testing/ (https://www.findmypast.co.uk/ancestry-dna-testing/)
Further exploration took me to Living DNA, which is promising matches by 1 Nov if we upload results from elsewhere by 1 Oct.
It says,
Our brand new upload DNA Matching portal will be available for free and for a limited time. By being one of our early users, you’ll be one of the first to receive your matches when the new portal goes live as part of our Family Networks Beta celebration.
BUT it then goes on to say,
You will also have the option to upgrade your account to get further analysis of your results such as ethnicity breakdowns.
Which sounds like extra money. :(
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I think they have finally realised that GEDmatch have been one step ahead of them in this respect for 2 or 3 years at least.
13:40 UPDATE. I uploaded my MyHeritage data with no problem. It was necessary to extract the data from the ZIP file, whereas GEDMatch accept the zip file.
Martin
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BUT it then goes on to say,
You will also have the option to upgrade your account to get further analysis of your results such as ethnicity breakdowns.
Which sounds like extra money. :(
Doesn't sound like extra money to me, I'm not interested in ethnicity!!!
Seriously, I wonder what else they will be charging for?
Thanks for the update, I'll upload mine later on when I'm on my tablet.
Regards Margaret
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This new venture was mentioned in an article here
https://cruwys.blogspot.com/
All I will say is LivingDNA would do well to get their website working properly before looking for new ventures, disgruntled customer ::)
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The free GEDMatch site also says you can upgrade your account to get further analysis of your results using Tier 1 services.
It is a common business model across the internet.
Martin
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Tier 1 has been available for a few years.
I dont mind the model and understand it but I would never utilise it until that number comes up!
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I have just discovered that ftDNA will also let you upload your data to their site.
https://www.familytreedna.com/autosomal-transfer
Martin
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I've uploaded mine to FTDNA a while ago, Martin.
With a free upload you only get closish matches. More distant matches are only available if you test with them. It's still worth fishing in another pond, though.
Regards Margaret
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If it is free, grab it.
Martin
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Jut for fun...
I noticed your Gedmatch kit number and just for fun ran the "people who match one or both of us" program expecting nothing. There are ten people who have >= 10cM matches to both of us!!!
A006809
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Diplodicus, cousin(!), that's why I put it there.
Names which appear frequently in my pedigree are Watson Loughborough Leggett Adamson Wilson Young Beasley Glassop Sedcole Sullivan. Places are Corton in Suffolk, Hartlepool, Durham City, and the Bedlington area of Northumberland.
Martin
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Re-Living DNA's pending partnership with FindMyPast and their offer to "accept transfer of autDNA from Ancestry and FTDNA for a limited period" which I think expires on 31st Aug.
Has anyone done this successfully? The link does not appear to be working now.
Kim
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I said earlier that I did it, as did others. The link works ok for me now.
Martin
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So does anyone actually know when their "Family Networks" will finally be rolled out?
I keep looking for announcements and updates but their website is pretty vague! No actual date.
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Martin
Yes,sorry the link works but I am obviously not doing something correctly.
I am trying to upload autDNA from FTDNA -( I am signed in) I get the "already tested with another company" and it shows the red upload - cannot work out how to get the data(which is saved in "downloads" to upload to Living DNA ???
Kim
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Kim, I think that's a question for their help desk. Are you sure it hasn't successfully uploaded, meaning that the message you are getting is correct? Have you very carefully read the instructions?
Martin
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Thanks Martin - no, I do not get the feeling that it is completing,it goes from upload to filling in name and e-mail of person whose DNA it is then goes back to the Home Page!
I will contact them,hopefully get a reply before 31st !!
Kim
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Update!
E-mailed LivingDNA yesterday(BH) reply today(quick or what!) to the effect that if you wish to upload another living adults' autDNA they have to open a seperate account themselves ,which is not quite what is implied in the blog where it says "you give the name and e-mail address of person and LivingDNA will e-mail them within 24hrs for thier consent"
Kim
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Same as at Ancestry, Kim.
If the other person has given you full access to their DNA results and has agreed that you may upload them elsewhere, you can set up an account with them and give an alternative email address of your own.
This is what I did with my husband's DNA results, he is not the slightest bit interested.
Regards Margaret
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I note on the free offer to upload before 1st October, on the first findmypast page it says
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/ancestry-dna-testing/
(https://www.findmypast.co.uk/ancestry-dna-testing/)
"Get the world's most detailed ethnicity results for free, including your British and Irish regional breakdown"
but when you click through, it says
"You will also have the option to upgrade your account to get further analysis of your results such as ethnicity breakdowns."
So does the free offer only include regional breakdown for Britain and Ireland but not elsewhere ????
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Have you read the original post, melba_schmelba and the following answers?
Don't know that anybody knows as yet exactly what they will and won't be charging for.
I still haven't got any results back from them from end of August, nearly a month. Most other uploads took only a day or two at most.
Matches won't be readily available until the end of the year, but ethnicity estimates, (if I were interested!!), shouldn't take that long.
Regards Margaret
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Have you read the original post, melba_schmelba and the following answers?
Don't know that anybody knows as yet exactly what they will and won't be charging for.
I still haven't got any results back from them from end of August, nearly a month. Most other uploads took only a day or two at most.
Matches won't be readily available until the end of the year, but ethnicity estimates, (if I were interested!!), shouldn't take that long.
Regards Margaret
Margaret I missed that ;), there seems to be quite a discrepancy - I may email them and ask.
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I think I have found the answer :). It is related to their One Family Research Project, that is being done in conjunction with Eupedia and Verein für Computergenealogie. Deadline is 1st October, 4 days to go!!!!
https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/
(https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/)
http://www.compgen.de/ (http://www.compgen.de/)
"Living DNA is setting out to build a worldwide genetic family tree as well as producing a fine scale map of the world's ancestry to help explore and understand both recent and ancient migrations.
That’s where you can help, so if you’ve done a DNA test you can upload your existing results for FREE and have access to DNA matches from late 2018, or you can buy a Living DNA test."
and
"You will be helping to create a legacy for future generations to come, as you are part of the last generation who can help us capture a research project with great detail and accuracy.
As a thank-you for taking part in our research project, you will be able to find DNA matches with other people in the project as well as people who have taken a Living DNA test.
This will help those that are interested find new ‘genetic cousins’ and connect with once unknown relatives around the world. The free upload does not provide an ethnic breakdown."
"We are currently accepting DNA uploads from anyone around the world who wishes to be a part of this project.
The One Family project is open to everyone worldwide and has two main research goals:
To build a genetic family tree of everyone from around the world, regardless of where your family comes from.
To build a regional genetic breakdown of ancestry within countries, similar to 'The Peopling of the British Isles project'. This part of the project is looking for people with all four grandparents born within 80km (50mi) of each other inside our project areas of interest.
Anyone with autosomal DNA data who wishes to upload to us will qualify for the first part of our research project.
If you have all four of your grandparents born within 80km of one another, you will also qualify for the second part of our research project."
So they are mainly looking for 'pure' samples of people whose all four grandparents are born within 80km / 50 miles of each other, basically everywhere except England, Wales, North/South/East Africa, the New World, Australasia and Polynesia, full country list -:
Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland
France, Iberia (Spain, Portugal), Switzerland, Benelux (Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands), Germany, Italy
Nordics and Baltics (Denmark, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Greenland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden)
Poland, Eastern Europe, Caucasus & Siberia (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, Russia, Ukraine)
Southeast Europe (Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Greece, Hungary, Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Turkey, Kosovo)
West Africa (Benin, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo (Brazzaville), Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Togo)
Middle East (Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen)
Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan)
China & Mongolia (China, Mongolia, Taiwan)
South Asia (Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka)
Korea, Japan, Indonesia, Southeast Asia (Brunei, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam)
But they are also building a worldwide genetic family tree, so English, Welsh, Americans, Australians etc. can also contribute if they want to be part of that, and you will get genetic matches shown to you in a month or so.
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Hi everyone, I uploaded my DNA on the Find my Past website in August and was expecting to be shown DNA matches on November 1st. I've had a look through the website but don't see anything, does anyone else have any matches yet?
H x
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Hi everyone, I uploaded my DNA on the Find my Past website in August and was expecting to be shown DNA matches on November 1st. I've had a look through the website but don't see anything, does anyone else have any matches yet?
H x
I had my DNA tested at LivingDNA and also have a Findmypast subscription. I've logged into both LivingDNA and Findmypast and haven't got any Family Network matches on either site
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Hi everyone, I uploaded my DNA on the Find my Past website in August and was expecting to be shown DNA matches on November 1st. I've had a look through the website but don't see anything, does anyone else have any matches yet?
H x
I had my DNA tested at LivingDNA and also have a Findmypast subscription. I've logged into both LivingDNA and Findmypast and haven't got any Family Network matches on either site
I was told by Living DNA that Family Networks is not going live until late 2018 ETA, so could be December.
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Hi everyone, I uploaded my DNA on the Find my Past website in August and was expecting to be shown DNA matches on November 1st. I've had a look through the website but don't see anything, does anyone else have any matches yet?
H x
I had my DNA tested at LivingDNA and also have a Findmypast subscription. I've logged into both LivingDNA and Findmypast and haven't got any Family Network matches on either site
Hi everyone, I uploaded my DNA on the Find my Past website in August and was expecting to be shown DNA matches on November 1st. I've had a look through the website but don't see anything, does anyone else have any matches yet?
H x
I had my DNA tested at LivingDNA and also have a Findmypast subscription. I've logged into both LivingDNA and Findmypast and haven't got any Family Network matches on either site
I was told by Living DNA that Family Networks is not going live until late 2018 ETA, so could be December.
Oh, that's disappointing, I guess I must have missed the update from them 😓😓
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The open BETA of Family Networks was due to start in Q4 i.e. in October as mentioned in their August blog.
https://www.livingdna.com/blog/346-august-2018-living-dna-product-updates
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I also uploaded my DNA to livingdna in August. I wasn't expecting matches before Q4 2018, as stated on their site, but I thought that some basic results, i.e. ethnicity (supposedly much better for UK testers) would be available sooner.
Regards Margaret
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I also uploaded my DNA to livingdna in August. I wasn't expecting matches before Q4 2018, as stated on their site, but I thought that some basic results, i.e. ethnicity (supposedly much better for UK testers) would be available sooner.
Regards Margaret
They only stopped accepting DNA uploads for their pure sample 4 grandparent in one area matches for Scotland/Ireland and other parts of the world study, on I think 1st October, so it is going to take them time to analyse all those samples and put together new ethnicity algorithms.
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My four grandparents would not be very helpful to them. They were all born in the the same town, but the parents, grandparents of 2 of them came from far distant parts of England.
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Mgeneas, I'm the same, and I often wonder how many times the four of them bumped into each other before they all became involved in the same family. At one time my two great grandmothers live within 100 yards of each other. As far as I know they never met.
Martin
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Can't even get into see My Test on the Living DNA site now, I log into the site, click on My Test - and get returned to the log-in page!
Not a good start!
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Can't even get into see My Test on the Living DNA site now, I log into the site, click on My Test - and get returned to the log-in page!
Not a good start!
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It could be because of the browser you are using as back in September Living DNA were having browser trouble and I had to change my browser to be able to see my results that I had previously been able to see no problem.
When I queried it with them this is the gist of what they said
Sorry to hear you have received the message error 100. An error has been identified in the browser you are currently using for Living DNA. Our technical team are currently investigating this.
To get the best out of your Living DNA portal we advise you use either Google Chrome, Safari or Firefox as your browser. It looks as though you have not been using these browsers currently.
Is that (bit in bold) similar to the message you are getting ? What brrowser are you using ?
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Can't even get into see My Test on the Living DNA site now, I log into the site, click on My Test - and get returned to the log-in page!
Not a good start!
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Working here using Microsoft Edge.
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Is that (bit in bold) similar to the message you are getting ? What brrowser are you using ?
No, wasn't getting an error message at all, just being returned to the login page.
Seems to be working now, though, but still no DNA results.
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Is that (bit in bold) similar to the message you are getting ? What brrowser are you using ?
No, wasn't getting an error message at all, just being returned to the login page.
Seems to be working now, though, but still no DNA results.
That's to be expected as they only stopped accepting samples to refine their ethnicity algorithms on October 1st. It's going to take a couple of months at least to process those and create and test new algorithms, and then implement those new algorithms on everyone's DNA samples including those who uploaded who have a findmypast subscription. The Family Networks may arrive sooner.
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Well that was a letdown after a near 4 month wait! I just got an email to say I was part of the next batch to get beta access to the family network, 1 match 😓😓😓 it says 5th cousin but at 49.9 cm ancestry would have placed them as a 4th cousin.
H x
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Well that was a letdown after a near 4 month wait! I just got an email to say I was part of the next batch to get beta access to the family network, 1 match 😓😓😓 it says 5th cousin but at 49.9 cm ancestry would have placed them as a 4th cousin.
H x
I've just received my email and checked my results. As yet, I don't have any matches at all! ::)
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Forgot about this thread! Posted at about the same time -
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=804086.new#new
No matches for me at all.
Hmootm, have you worked out the connection?
Regards Margaret
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Forgot about this thread! Posted at about the same time -
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=804086.new#new
No matches for me at all.
Hmootm, have you worked out the connection?
Regards Margaret
Not surprising perhaps as their database is probably the smallest of all the most well known providers.
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Forgot about this thread! Posted at about the same time -
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=804086.new#new
No matches for me at all.
Hmootm, have you worked out the connection?
Regards Margaret
Hi sugarfizxle, unfortunately no, it would be nearly impossible for me to be able to place 4th/5th cousins as I've only really been able to get back to 2x great grandparent apart from on my fathers paternal side, the side on which no one has tested 😓😓😓
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Melba -
'Not surprising perhaps as their database is probably the smallest of all the most well known providers.'
To me it is both surprising and disappointing.
To say it is probably the smallest database must be a bit of an understatement, but they all have to start somewhere.
I remember when I first uploaded to my heritage I had about 200 matches, now I have c 20,000. This was more due to an upgrade in the way they were looking at matches, rather than an actual increase.
LivingDNA are probably disappointed as well, were perhaps hoping for more people to upload their results there.
The beta release was delayed by several months until now, the full version was supposed to be out Oct - Dec 2018. I can't wait to see it when it is ready!!
Regards Margaret