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Title: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Sunday 05 August 18 15:15 BST (UK)
looking for info regarding  Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz married November 18, 1934 Bashaw, Alberta witnesses Ludwig Schultz, Alwine Schultz...also curious to the name of their parents, and where arthur was born. thanks
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Sunday 05 August 18 17:05 BST (UK)

From the 1921 Canadian census  Thomas Albert  and  Anna Albert both born New Brunswick.
Living at Battle River, Alberta son Arthur age 2 years along with other siblings. Family was R C

Cheers
Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 August 18 17:43 BST (UK)

From the 1921 Canadian census  Thomas Albert  and  Anna Albert both born New Brunswick.
Living at Battle River, Alberta son Arthur age 2 years along with other siblings. Family was R C

Cheers
Lilybell

Arthur would only have been 15 years old - if he married in 1934 -  ???

Arthur Albert born 26 February 1919 - Battle River, Paintearth, Alberta, Canada
passed away 26 July 2004 - Bonnyville, Alberta.

Spouse is listed on headstone with no date of passing.

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/2307198

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 August 18 17:55 BST (UK)
Canada Voters List 1957 - Edmonton/Strathcona - Arthur Albert (farmer) Mrs Arthur Albert and Evelyn  Albert (maid)


Canada Voters List - Edmonton/Strathcona - 1963 - Arthur Albert (General Manager) Josephine and Ralph (farmer) Norman (hired man) and Evelyn in 1963

Canada Voters List 1972 - 91 Street Edmonton/Strathcona - Terry Albert (labourer) Ralph Albert - Arthur Albert (farm hand) and Josephine Albert

Canada Voters List 1974 - Arthur Albert (self employed) - Josephine Albert (homemaker) Ralph (unempoyed) and terry (service station manager)

FIND A GRAVE

Josephine Arthur - 16 January 1916 - 30 November 2003 -


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/165300116
   
Saint Anthony Cemetery Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta.

Buried with son Ralph.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/165300135/ralph-albert

Josephine Albert listed Daily Times Obituary Index. Publication Date 2 December 2003

Sandra

Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 August 18 17:56 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

Arthur Albert - born 1914 - 1981

   
Saint Anthony Cemetery Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta.
PLOT   12 16 J C

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190584821/arthur-albert

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 August 18 17:57 BST (UK)
Is this a possible  ??? Would have made him more like 20 years at marriage.  ???

1921 census - Strathcona Edmonton Alberta

Harry Albert   45 Born Russia. Cattle Dealer. Imm 1900.
Pauline Albert   44 Born Russia. Imm 1906.
Harry Albert   14 born Manitoba
Emma Albert   9 born Manitoba.
Willie Albert   8 born Manitoba.
Arthur Albert   7 born Alberta
Edward Albert   6 born Alberta
Geo Albert   5 born Alberta.
Rudolf Albert   3 born Alberta.
Else Albert   9 months. born Alberta.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002865220

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 August 18 18:06 BST (UK)


Same family 1916    42, 22, 4, Manfred Victoria, Alberta.

Henry Albert   41    Paulina Albert   38
Julius Albert born 1900 Russia. aged  16
Louis Albert   born Russia aged 15
Harry Albert   6 Emma Albert   5
William Albert   4 Gito Albert   2
Edward Albert   0

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 August 18 18:26 BST (UK)
Canadian Passenger List - Pauline Albert 28 years,  Julius 5 years - Louis 3 years - Sarah 7 months.
Going to Winnipeg Manitoba. Liverpool - Montreal on the Dominion - 21 October 1906.

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 August 18 19:14 BST (UK)
Pauline Albert appears on Alberta Death Index - 12 February 1954 Edmonton Alberta.

Obituary available - Albert    Pauline - 1954   February 13

Listed on Canada Voters List - 1940 -  77th Avenue - Edomonton/Strathcona - Pauline Albert -
house-wife.

Canada Voters List 1949 - 61 st Avenue - Edmonton/Strathcona - Pauline Albert -

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 August 18 19:22 BST (UK)
Obituary for Ralph (with photo) - son of Arthur and Josephine.

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/ralph-albert-obituary?pid=172062255

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Sunday 05 August 18 19:58 BST (UK)
thanks :)
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Sunday 05 August 18 23:31 BST (UK)
is there any listing of josephine's schultz parents and where she was born
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Monday 06 August 18 05:48 BST (UK)
http://edmontonjournal.remembering.ca/obituary/alvena-ritter-2003-1065789294

The obituary for Josephine's sister gives their other siblings and parents names
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Monday 06 August 18 06:41 BST (UK)
https://www.womboldfuneralhomes.com/notices/Fred-Schultz
Obituary for Fred gives his mother as Olga as does obituary for Ted
https://www.womboldfuneralhomes.com/notices/Theodore-Schultz

1921 census

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002865768
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Monday 06 August 18 09:52 BST (UK)
thank you!!
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 August 18 11:09 BST (UK)
http://edmontonjournal.remembering.ca/obituary/alvena-ritter-2003-1065789294

The obituary for Josephine's sister gives their other siblings and parents names

Great result. Good one.

Sandra  ;)
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Monday 06 August 18 16:35 BST (UK)

From Family Search there is a marriage for what appears to be the parents of Arthur Albert.

Date of marriage 1 July,1902 Madawaska, N B

Thomas Albert  age 25 years, born Clair N B, carpenter  by profession and Roman Catholic  parents Xavier Albert and Solomie Caron

Married Edna Michaud age 17 years, born Clair N B, Roman Catholic, parents Georges Bilsaud and Helen Oaks.

Thomas Albert and Anna are on the 1911 Canadian census for Victoria-Madawaska along with children Georgeian 6 years Isabelle age 1 year and Albini.

They are also on the 1916 Canadian census for Battle River, Alberta.

Lilybell








 
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 August 18 16:47 BST (UK)

From Family Search there is a marriage for what appears to be the parents of Arthur Albert.

Date of marriage 1 July,1902 Madawaska, N B

Thomas Albert  age 25 years, born Clair N B, carpenter  by profession and Roman Catholic  parents Xavier Albert and Solomie Caron

Married Edna Michaud age 17 years, born Clair N B, Roman Catholic, parents Georges Bilsaud and Helen Oaks.

Thomas Albert and Anna are on the 1911 Canadian census for Victoria-Madawaska along with children Georgeian 6 years Isabelle age 1 year and Albini.

They are also on the 1916 Canadian census for Battle River, Alberta.

Lilybell

Not sure about this particular Albert - Lilybell.

This Albert was born 26 February 1919 Battle River.  The one married to Josephine was born more like 1914 as per the find a grave entry.

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Monday 06 August 18 17:42 BST (UK)

There are numerous mistakes on census records and even on headstones. I have found this to be  true many times in all my years of research.

It all depends on who  the informant was.

I believe mhanson84 originally was looking for the names of Arthur Albert's and Josophine Schultz's parents. I believe the 1911,1916 and 1921 census records are Arthur's parents.

I will do some more searching and see what if anything more concrete comes to light.


Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Monday 06 August 18 17:52 BST (UK)
hi yes the parents of arthur albert who married josephine schultz
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 06 August 18 18:24 BST (UK)

From the 1921 Canadian census  Thomas Albert  and  Anna Albert both born New Brunswick.
Living at Battle River, Alberta son Arthur age 2 years along with other siblings. Family was R C

Cheers
Lilybell

Arthur would only have been 15 years old - if he married in 1934 -  ???

Arthur Albert born 26 February 1919 - Battle River, Paintearth, Alberta, Canada
passed away 26 July 2004 - Bonnyville, Alberta.

Spouse -  is listed on headstone with no date of passing.

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/2307198

Sandra


This Arthur Albert (listed above on find a grave ( 1919 - 2004 ) appears on Canada Voters List- Athabasca, Alberta with a wife Florence up until 1974  - the one mhanson84 is looking for has a wife Josephine who he married in 1934 and who appears on Canada Voters Lists - Edmonton/Strathcona Alberta Canada up to 1974.

An obituary would be handy.

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Monday 06 August 18 18:38 BST (UK)
https://www2.epl.ca/Obituaries/Obituaries.cfm

There is an obituary available through the Edmonton Public library for Arthur Albert.  21 Sep 1981 edition of the newspaper.  Seems to coincide with Sandra's posting of gravesite in same cemetery as Josephine.
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Monday 06 August 18 18:43 BST (UK)
There is also a local history book for Bashaw entitled Beautiful Fields which might shed light on the family connections.
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Monday 06 August 18 19:27 BST (UK)
Harry (Henry Herman) Albert and Paulina (nee Wilde - this from her son's birth in Manitoba.  shown as Harry in 1921 born as Herman).  Seems to be a positive lead.
in 1916 older children Louis and Julius born in Russia are in the household in Victoria, Alberta area.
Arthur might be listed as Otto.
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Monday 06 August 18 19:36 BST (UK)
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=gYAb_yFic6IC&dat=19530302&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

George Albert, s/o Paulina, obituary - scroll to page 22
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Monday 06 August 18 19:53 BST (UK)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XSM9-9GQ?i=14&cc=1823240
Pauline's arrival in Canada with Julius, Louis and Sarah
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Monday 06 August 18 21:15 BST (UK)
Find a Grave
Thomas Albert born 1877-1961 married 1902

Edna Michaud Albert  DOD 28 Feb. 1975(90-91 Years)

Both buried at St. Joseph Roman Catholic Cemetery

Fort Kent,Cold Lake Census Division,Alberta, Canada

Some of their children buried there also along with siblings.

Children's name match up with Canadian census records.


Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Tuesday 07 August 18 00:00 BST (UK)

Could this to be Arthur Albert with wife Josophine and 6 children on 1921 Canadian census for
Kamourska Dist. St Andre Parish,Quebec.
 
Arthur is 32 years old making him born in 1889 and Josophine born 1892/1893 both born in Quebec
Both Roman Catholic.

On 1911 census  Arthur is with his parents Joseph Albert and Marie Claire  and Arthur is 22 years old.
Josophine Schultz is with her parents James Schultz and Sarah, age 18.

Does mhanso84 have a copy of their marriage and where took place. Am I the only one getting confused. I was not able to find a  record of their marriage at Alberta Archives if they supposidly got married in 1934 That wife was named Florence did she  go by Josophine. Confused for sure.

??? ???

Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Tuesday 07 August 18 01:59 BST (UK)
The Quebec Arthur Albert married Josephine Beaulieu in 1912.

The Alberta indexes for marriage on ancestry show Arthur Albert marrying Josephine P. Schultz in Bashaw in 1934
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Tuesday 07 August 18 02:08 BST (UK)
Not sure what your last two posts are all about. 
Let us know when you get the obituary for Arthur Albert from the Edmonton library.  We all like to see the end result of a search.
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Tuesday 07 August 18 02:32 BST (UK)

Would be interested in hearing about Arthur's obituary. Might answer some questions about his  family history.

Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Tuesday 07 August 18 03:28 BST (UK)
I did a quick search on the Edmonton Public Library obits but did not see anything for Arthur .


Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: cosmac on Tuesday 07 August 18 03:58 BST (UK)
There is one for Arthur Albert who died in 1981
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Tuesday 07 August 18 16:15 BST (UK)
            Obituary for Ralph Arthur Albert

Ralph (Sonny) Arthur Albert died peacefully at the Palliative Care Unit General Hospital on August 8,2014

Born in Bashaw on June 5, 1937. he was the son of the late Arthur and Josephine Albert. Besides his
parents, he was predeceased by his sister, Evelyn and brother Norman. He was a resident of St. Thomas Health Centre for the past few years.


He is survived by 2 brothers Ronald(Diana) Albert and Terry(Wendy) Albert as well as several nieces and nephews and other family members.


The family expresses their thanks to the staff of St. Thomas Health Centre and the doctors and nurses at the U of A and General Hospitals for their compassionate care.

There will be no funeral service at his request. Internment will be beside his mother at St. Anthony Cemetery,  Edmonton AB.

The family gratefully declines any flowers or memorial donations



Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 07 August 18 17:33 BST (UK)
            Obituary for Ralph Arthur Albert

Ralph (Sonny) Arthur Albert died peacefully at the Palliative Care Unit General Hospital on August 8,2014

Born in Bashaw on June 5, 1937. he was the son of the late Arthur and Josephine Albert. Besides his
parents, he was predeceased by his sister, Evelyn and brother Norman. He was a resident of St. Thomas Health Centre for the past few years.


He is survived by 2 brothers Ronald(Diana) Albert and Terry(Wendy) Albert as well as several nieces and nephews and other family members.


The family expresses their thanks to the staff of St. Thomas Health Centre and the doctors and nurses at the U of A and General Hospitals for their compassionate care.

There will be no funeral service at his request. Internment will be beside his mother at St. Anthony Cemetery,  Edmonton AB.

The family gratefully declines any flowers or memorial donations



Lilybell

The obituary for Ralph was already posted in reply 9 Lilybell.

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Tuesday 07 August 18 18:38 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra there has been so much posted  my brain was taking detour.

I have  received a obit for Josephine and am awaiting one for Albert DOD 1981 if that is the correct Arthur.

Hope I have not missed something posted for Josephine and if its the right Arthur I will post. Easy for me I live in AB.


 ??? ??? ???
Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 07 August 18 19:28 BST (UK)
ALBERT, Josephine On November 30, 2003 Mrs. Josephine Albert passed away peacefully at the age of 87 years. Survived by her loving children: Evelyn (Pete) Serediak, Ralph "Sonny", Ronald (Diana) of Edmonton, Terry (Wendy) of South Edmonton; six grandchildren, and five great-grand- children. Josephine was predeceased by her husband Arthur, son Norman, sister Alvina Ritter. Visitation will be held on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 from 7:00 - 9:00 p.m. at Serenity Funeral Service, 5311-91 St., where the funeral service will be held on Thursday, December 4, 2003 at 1:00 p.m. with Reverend Ronald Wesley officiating. In lieu of flowers donations may be made to AB Heart & Stroke Foundation. Serenity Funeral Service, 5311-91 Street. 450-0101. Condolences: www.serenity.ca Your Community Owned Not For Profit Society

Published in The Edmonton Journal on Dec. 2, 2003

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/edmontonjournal/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=157385187

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Tuesday 07 August 18 22:39 BST (UK)
ALBERT  Arthur On September 19,1981,Mr. Arthur Albert of 10648 67 St. Edmonton passed away at the age of 67 years.

He is survived by one son  Ralph , one daughter Evelyn, three grandchildren, Rosanna, Wayne and Mrs. Valerie Grekul, one great granddaughter. Sherry, three brothers Ralph, Bob and Joe and one sister Mrs. Emily Dankewich all of Edmonton.

Funeral services will be held on Tuesday, September 2 at 10:00 a. am. from the Hainstock & Son Funeral Chapel with Captain Thompson officiating. Interment at Mount Pleasant Cemetery. Hainstock & Son Funeral Chapel in charge of arrangements. 10541 81 Ave.  Phone 432-1714


Arthur is not buried at Mount Pleasant he is at St. Anthony Cemetery, Edmonton. He is buried in a different area apart from Josephine.

Wonder why  Josephine is not mentioned in his obit? Estranged perhaps



Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 09 August 18 12:33 BST (UK)
Is this a possible  ??? Would have made him more like 20 years at marriage.  ???

1921 census - Strathcona Edmonton Alberta

Harry Albert   45 Born Russia. Cattle Dealer. Imm 1900.
Pauline Albert   44 Born Russia. Imm 1906.
Harry Albert   14 born Manitoba
Emma Albert   9 born Manitoba.
Willie Albert   8 born Manitoba.
Arthur Albert   7 born Alberta
Edward Albert   6 born Alberta
Geo Albert   5 born Alberta.
Rudolf Albert   3 born Alberta.
Else Albert   9 months. born Alberta.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002865220

Sandra

The obituary for Arthur brings us nicely back to reply 5 (as above).  Emma is later Mrs Emily Dankowich - Canada Voters List 1963 Edmonton/Strathcona - Mike Dankowich (insulator) Emilie Dankowich, Katie Dankowich(housekeeper) Edward Albert (pensioner) and William Albert (engineer)

Canada Voters List 1949 - Mike Deankwoich (baker) Mrs Mike Deankwoich, Edward Albert (plasterer) and Mrs Edward Albert.

(There was a marriage of Edward Albert to JessieE Miller - 1935 Edmonton Alberta)

Ralph referred to in the obituary is Rudolf on the 1921 census.

Evelyn Albert - daughter of Arthur and Josephine was born 19 June 1935 and passed away 3 February 2010 - obituary should be in the Edmonton Journal




FIND A GRAVE


Emily Dankowich - 1910 23/2/1987

Saint Anthony Cemetery Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124225287

I still believe the parents to be Henry Herman/Harry and Pauline Albert.

Sandra

Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 09 August 18 12:38 BST (UK)
This could be William Albert buried at Mount Pleasant

FIND A GRAVE

William Albert 1911 - 1971

Mount Pleasant Municipal Cemetery Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/104106338/william-albert

Obit Index - Albert       William       1971   November 05

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mh9/

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 09 August 18 12:40 BST (UK)

FIND A GRAVE


Edward Albert - 1916 - 1978

   
Mount Pleasant Municipal Cemetery Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta, Canada
PLOT   L 0008 0025

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/61483207/edward-albert

Obit Index

Albert       E.       1978   February 25

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mha/

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 09 August 18 12:41 BST (UK)

FIND A GRAVE

George Albert 1917 - 1953

Mount Pleasant Municipal Cemetery Edmonton, Edmonton Census Division, Alberta.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/186197235/george-albert

Could Rony (on the headstone inscription)  be a child of George - 1950 - 1953

Obit Index -

Albert       George       1953   March 02

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mhb/

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 10 August 18 11:25 BST (UK)


Any acknowledgement from the original poster - people have spent a lot of time researching this and gone to the effort of securing the obituary for Arthur Albert from Edmonton Library. It would be nice to see some show of appreciation and recognition.

Sandra
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Friday 10 August 18 12:20 BST (UK)
thank you for taking the time to find the info people :)
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Friday 10 August 18 12:33 BST (UK)
:)
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Friday 10 August 18 12:34 BST (UK)
 :) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: lilybell on Friday 10 August 18 13:06 BST (UK)

mhanson84 thank you acknowledging all our hard work.

Lilybell
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Friday 10 August 18 17:04 BST (UK)
you're welcome :)
Title: Re: Arthur Albert and Josephine Schultz
Post by: mhanson84 on Friday 10 August 18 17:05 BST (UK)
and thank you for the good work that u and others have done!