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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Leicestershire => England => Leicestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Annie65115 on Sunday 05 August 18 22:46 BST (UK)
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Hello folks
Thomas Langham married in Leicester in 1841; if my detective work is right, he married Sarah Hudson, and Sarah was probably living in St Margarets at the time of the marriage. so St Mgt is probably the likeliest church -- if indeed it was a church wedding!
sorry, terribly vague, I know.
Anyway, can anyone find any more details of Thomas's wedding - obviously to confirm firstly if he did indeed marry Sarah Hudson, then any details of Sarah, any witnesses etc? I can see that there was something in the Leic Mercury on 1 Jan 1842, but my sub to FindMyPast doesn't cover this :(
Muchas gracias :)
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From the newspaper
On Christmas Day at Bishop Street Chapel, Mr Thomas Langham, Lower Church Street to Miss Sarah Rebecca Hudson, Charles Street, both of this town
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That’s great, thank you! From the address, this is very likely to be the “right” Sarah. Does anyone have access to the pr’s to get her fathers name and marriage witnesses? Or could anyone have a look when they go to the records office please?
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Hi their is a baptism of a Sarah Rebecca Hudson 5th May 1824 Leicester St Margarets Father John Mother Mary.
Keyboard86
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Hi again, the 1841 census shows this:-
Mary Hudson 50
Sarah 15
Residing at Charles Street, Upper St Margaret
Census ref HO107/604/ 5/31 / 14
Keyboard86
EDIT Their is a burial 15th December 1831 of a John Hudson aged 43 Leicester, St Margaret.
1851 census
Mary Hudson 66 Widow occ Brace Stitcher Pauper b Leicester
Sarah Dixon 58 Widow occ Brace Stitcher Pauper b Leicester
Residing at Dowlngs Yard, 3, Upper Charles Street, St Margaret
Census ref HO107/2088/352/13
Death Mary Hudson Dec qtr 1856 Leicester 7a 102 aged 71
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25 December 1841 was a busy day for weddings at St Margaret's (12 in all), but it isn't where Thomas and Sarah married. The marriage locator website (which is a work in progress and not complete):
http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/
can't find a location for this marriage at present.
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On Christmas Day at Bishop Street Chapel, Mr Thomas Langham, Lower Church Street to Miss Sarah Rebecca Hudson, Charles Street, both of this town
Marriage was at Bishops Street Chapel. Probably non conformist, so wont be any PRs to look at.
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Looks like Methodist
http://www.bishopstreetchurch.org.uk/body_index.html
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According to the newspaper reported above, they were married in Bishop Street Chapel.
Sarah probably died only 6 months after her marriage.
just need father occ. and witness names now! I’m sincerely hoping that Sarah was the sister of my ancestor, and might give me a leg up over this particular brick wall!
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Surely they had marriage registers, if not parish records, for the noncon weddings?
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Yes.
Records would be kept in the same way. But whilst Parish records are available to view at Local Record Offices, and often online, non conformist records are less easy to come across.
So you may have to buy the certificate to get the information.
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Hi what was the possible sister's name?
Keyboard86
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Possibly try Leicestershire Records Office at Wigston. They may, or may not, have the records for that chapel.
Non-conformists were just that - non-conformists :o
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Hi a Sarah Rebecca Langham was buried 24th May 1842 Leicester St George aged 18 ie birth 1824, which is oddly the birth year of the Sarah Rebecca Hudson the daughter of John and Mary, who was possibly living in Charles Street in 1841 with a Mary Hudson?
Keyboard86
Sarah Rebecca had sisters Elizth 13th January 1813 who was buried 11th December Leicster St Margaret daughter of John/Mary aged 13, Mary 1st August 1815 and Katherine/Catherine 15th October 1817.
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Many thanks for all the help so far.
Maybe this is all a red herring. My ancestor was Mary Ann Hudson (several threads passim on this board), who may have been born around 1822 ish, and married in 1841 to Thomas Kilner.
The marriage cert gave her father’s name as Thomas, and I suspect that this is incorrect. I know people lied about fathers if they were illegitimat, but I know that errors were made sometimes too (I have another cert where the brides father allegedly had the same name as the grooms!but that’s another story!)
Anyway, Mary Ann lived on Charles Street when she married only a couple of weeks before the census which is why I hoped that this gave a link to Sarah. But according to the 1851, Mary Ann was from Shepshed, so that's Looking less likely again.
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Hi again, their must be some sort of link with Mary Ann Hudson and Mary & Sarah Hudson in Charles Street, St Margaret, Leicestershire as Mary & Sarah Rebecca were the only Hudson family shown in Charles Street in 1841 ( Census above ) Thomas Kilner 20 & Mary 20 were in Lewin Street in both 1841 and 1851 census?
Keyboard86
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Just to add from the paper
21 May 1842 - Leicestershire Mercury - Leicester
On Thursday last, aged 18, Sarah Rebecca Langham, Upper Charles-street.
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John left a will 1831...occ sawyer
wife Mary
children Alexander, Sarah and Katherine
has a dwelling Upper Charles Street
father Thomas Hudson and Elizabeth his wife
Have got 3 pages if you would like them
there is a baptism for an Alexander Hudson born Sept 9th 1811, bap. 13th St Margaret's John and Mary
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Hi is Mary baptised 1815 a daughter of a different John/Mary?
Keyboard86
EDIT Mary died aged 8 daughter of John/Mary 1824
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Once again, thanks to everyone who's taken the time to chew this over. I think I can conclude that my Mary Ann was not a close relation to Sarah Langham nee Hudson; but there are a lot of confusing links so I'm going to close this thread and continue on a differently named thread to try to unravel some of the confusion. Hope to see you there!!! ;D